Well, I guess the only real time to react will be in a couple seasons, but I have mixed feelings about this one. Three different GMs, three trades for troubled WRs. Marshall can probably still play at a high level and I get the sense injuries had something to do with his down production, missing 3 games and leaving others, but age is a cocnern as the guy is 31. I get that his contract is manageable and it's only a 5th round pick and he can be cut at anytime without major cap hit, and that makes this a lot better, but they'll be sitting at 6 with at least one young, likely big time #1 WRs on the board and the chance to really build into the future. This is a 1, 2 or maybe 3 season player who's already old. He's been on four teams despite his immense talent and production and has seemingly had some clashes everywhere he went. He just came from a lousy team and overall bad QB and now comes to another. On the other hand, Bowles was with Miami when Marshall was on board so he must be confident he can get along well with him. So I have mixed feelings about this one, but ultimately, he can be cut at any time without much damage and it's only a 5th round pick... But I feel like I'm saying that a lot lately... But for now, this looks like a very formidable group of receivers and that's exciting
I mean they aren't even calling Winston a sure thing and he's going #1. I swear sometimes people here just say things to prove points without taking reality into account. Winston is more NFL ready than Mariota. Mariota has more talent upside but more uncertainty to day 1 readiness making him literally the opposite of a sure thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Great birthday gift from the Jets to me. They got us a WR. Love it! Now dump Harvin, get us a vet CB, a FS, some o-linemen, a QB and I'll be happy.
I want nothing to do with Mariota. He may be great but I don't like spread offense qbs. They don't translate well in the nfl
I think you're taking it a little too far here..... 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See this is why I love Winston and have wanted him forever. He has played in a pro system and has a genius football IQ. He is the type of player that could likely start on his first day and do well for himself. Learn at the helm. Mariota, who I think is very talented, scares me because of the system he was in and how many times he runs. Will that translate to the NFL? I don't know and I think that's what has so many people worried about him. He has all the talent in the world, but is he a system guy or is he capable of becoming a pocket passer?
When's the last time Marshall had an off the field incident. In fact he's on showtimes NFL show which lends even more to his sanity. Marshall isn't an off the field trouble in fact I've seen him become the opposite. He WAS a problem in Denver, went to Miami who has their heads up their asses and couldn't figure out how to use talent. In turn went to Chicago and left as a scapegoat for a messed up locker room for a variety of reasons including their coaching staff. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Two words..Washington Redskins. Whether an organization "wins" the off season is irrelevant. What teams do during the season is what counts.
Marshall is a helluva receiver, a true #1. He's a little up there in age but still should have a few top years left in em. We get a receiver of his caliber for just a 5th round pick and with only 1 year being guaranteed, It's a great trade, no doubt about it. Low risk, high reward IMO... I like it.
You've only wanted Winston for three months, and before that you were calling him a clueless moron, that you wanted nothing to do with....
If we were talking Winston at 6 instead of Mariota my tune would be way different and I agree with you. Mariota will potentially be good but will be entirely dependent on system. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You are correct that the contract is a strong disincentive for Chicago to cut him. But you also assume that a deal for him would involve the team he's traded to to take over the contract as is. The logic is Chicago should offer to pay part of his contract to provide a sufficient incentive to take it on. I would otherwise agree it is too expensive, but that's not a given it would stay as is.
The Redskins 'won' offseasons by spending the most money to buy big names past their prime. This and re-signing Harris were smart football moves at little cost.
The big question is this: Now that we have Batman (Brandon Marshall) do we trade for Robin (Jay Cutler)?
Yes if we go out and give davon house 50$ mil then yeah we are the Redskins...but we aren't and can leave that to the Redskins. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think a good portion of the off the field stuff stemmed from a mental health issue that he has since gotten under control. http://blogs.psychcentral.com/bipolar-life/2014/05/brandon-marshall/
Good point as sometimes these "character concern" labels can follow a player around without justification or for too long. That team was a mess and my sense is their QBs personality and leadership is/was the biggest issue and still is. That and Trestman seemed to lose his team. I still have concerns about his playing with Geno, but Marshall seems like the mentor type and might respond better to him than someone like Cutler who is an arrogant veteran without much charisma. I'm hoping he responds well to Bowles and I believe this will actually happen. I'm very happy they traded for Marshall instead of Cutler, however. I want no part of Cutler
You know guys... I was walking home yesterday from work thinking to myself...What if we had a WR like Calvin Johnson? I would love get a guy who is a nightmare matchup. Marshall is difficult to handle
Good point. There was a lot of crap going on in Chicago, and the CS was basically shitcanned as a result. Can't say that was all on marshall. I like this deal.
