If both QBs and both WRs are still on the board at #6 and we go OL, then either they know something we don't or they're complete idiots and TGG is full of brilliance
If Mariota and Winston are off the board by pick six, I don't think anyone will have a problem with a Dante Fowler or even a Randy Gregory (I'm not a fan of him). We need Edge Rushers to compliment our front four and fortunately this is probably the deepest EDGE rusher class we've seen over the past four years... It's a need and we're never to become an elite defense until we find an EDGE rusher who can overwhelm offensive tackles.
Can't judge a draft on one round. D vs. O doesn't compare to BPA at #6. You take the highest guy on your board. As of now, my top 3 for that includes one defensive player: 1. Marcus Mariota (need competition at the top position on the team until you find the right guy) 2. Amari Cooper (athleticism+tape+route running ability) 3. Vic Beasely - undersized (weight wise), maybe, but damn he can rush the passer and played both DE and LB already.
The three most important positions in the NFL are QB, LT and edge rusher. If the QBs are gone we should absolutely get one of the edge rushers because there isn't an elite LT available.
The only reason I created this thread is because I saw two people who foolishly said that we have to go O no matter what in the first. It seemed like there was a portion of the fanbase that actually believed this. I'm glad to see there isn't.
It could, but I doubt it. Anyone who knows anything about the Jets or about a 3-4 D alignment, knows of the importance of the OLB position. If they know the Jets, they know that the Jets have had a succession of older, slower OLBs (Pace, Thomas, Babin & Barnes, who was older, but not slower) and Coples, who is out of position, who were pretty good at setting the edge and stopping the run, but no so good at creating consistent pressure on opposing QBs. The pity is that the Jets could have gotten their WR in last year's draft, then taken an OLB first this year and probably few, if any one would have complained. Then they could have a topflight WR prospect and a topflight OLB prospect. Now we have to choose between the two if Mariota isn't there at #6.
You don't? What about the OLB pass rushers? Three may be taken in the top 10. We have a desperate need at OLB, and getting a stud pass rusher would take a lot of pressure off of our secondary.
I would blame the fans for not understanding BPA. The Jets have a lot of needs including on D. If the front office thinks a rush OLB is BPA at 6 then so be it.
Well you can't blame Rex this time. There are possibly 3 top ten wide receivers. 2 top ten Qbs. Some prognosticators have us taking Fowler. I'd have no problem with that.
If we go D with the number 6, it's because that was the best rated player on their board. It should not matter who is sitting there. I could easily see Dante Fowler Jr being the #6 pick for us, especially when you look at the depth at WR in this draft, we can easily get a quality WR with our second pick. We are in a good spot this draft, regardless of who is there.
There's nobody to blame for anything assuming the Jets take the BAP on their draft board. We all know they need a lot of help for both the offense and defense. I think once the FA period is over the Jets draft strategy will come more into focus. As of right now assuming both QBs are off the board I'd say it's 50/50 between a WR and an OLB with OL as a very slight possibility ( my gut tells me it will not be CB - this will be handled during FA ).......but this will probably change.
I would not be upset with an OLB at 6 or trading back for a corner. But if we pick a corner at 6 I'll be irate. That would be horrendously forcing a pick. And if we go DL it would just be a joke (unless we're converting him to play outside).
Well the strength of this team is obviously defense, and we have a defensive-minded head coach. So one can make the case that there's nothing wrong with making our strength even stronger, especially considering the fact that we're not going to have a great QB next year no matter what (unless Geno makes big strides). Plus, no matter what you think of Winston or Mariota, nobody can say they're can't miss prospects by any stretch. There's no Luck or Manning in this draft, so it's really a crap shoot whether Winston or Mariota pans out...can you really blame them if they don't want to roll the dice like that with the #6 overall pick?
This may not be a popular opinion but when I look at the QB's in this draft, I think to myself, how much better are these guys rated over a guy like Teddy Bridgewater? The more I watch film on these guys, I honestly don't think these two guys deserve a much higher rating than TB. Especially if you look at the cons on both QB's. Mariota has never played in a pro style scheme, he will be a project pick, he most likely will suffer from that standpoint more because he most likely will be thrust right into a starting role day 1. Winston had a huge accuracy problem, big turnover problem, that was in college. That is an extremely high red flag for me, without even factoring in the immature issues that he has. I would personally avoid the QB's in this draft. It's just not the year for a QB. As much as we would like it to be, it's just not. IMO.
You are exactly right, and that is consistent with what the analysts are saying about this draft as well.
I'm not gonna act like I'm a good talent evaluator but I've been seeing tons of guys on the NFL Network and ESPN hyping the shit out of Winston and Mariota lately. I'm starting to wonder if it's more of a personal agenda. Are these guys actually as good as the media is piping down our throats or do they just know that more people will watch their draft coverage if they think there are future star quarterbacks in it? I think Winston and Mariota are both gonna be good, but that's just a conspiracy I've been thinking about as a possibility lately. It could explain why the top quarterbacks always "fall" on draft day. The media tells us they're great but the scouting teams know otherwise.
