I think there's less need for perfect technique in the spread option and a much bigger need for physical ability. There's a lot less overall equal talent levels in college so the spread option allows teams to dominate lesser competition. In the NFL, everyone is fast. Everyone is strong. Most everyone is smart. Technique and strategy are what allows teams to win in the NFL and that's a bigger part of the pro style offense.
cmon now Stokes ... my point is you can win and run a pro offense in college ... look up the last BCS Champs and you'll see.
The last BCS champs won because they DOMINATED the trenches on both sides of the ball. If you can do that you will win regardless of the type of offense you run.
But not every coach cares to do that. Oregon's s perfect example. They probably would have no chance competing for some of the high school players that USC, OSU, Alabama, Auburn and others get. They probably have a much better chance of winning by using different systems which utilize different skills and talents and they can take very talented players that other schools would probably overlook because they didn't quite fit the pro system mold. It also would make the college game boring. Part of what makes the college game exciting is that it's a place where creative minds can devise new systems and new schemes and have great success. You know this, but colleges aren't an organized minor league farm system for the NFL like baseball has. I've thought for years that it would behoove the NFL to develop a farm system. For a few years, they had it with the NFL Europe league. As crazy as people are about football, I think they could do it here and succeed. I agree with your sentiments about collegiate coaches not preparing players for the NFL. I think the same thing about many high school coaches. They get a kid like Tebow, who's bigger and stronger than most of the other kids, and can win with him. They don't try to fix the hitches in their delivery or fundamental flaws because that would have the kid thinking too much and he wouldn't be able to just go out, play and win using his natural ability.
I said this in the Draft Forum and I'll say it here... I'm Damn near gettin' on my knees and Praying He falls to us...and then I'll definitely throw myself on the ground Praying and begging that we take him. Hope we can nab Bradford on the cheap too
So you're suggesting that every college program run a pro style offense? Then why do the vast majority not? Because it gives them the best chance to win a LOT. _
Of course not, but I think certain programs can do a better job prepping players for the next level. Oregon included. I do agree that college football is where you are an innovator as a HC, I just feel they can do a better job getting some of these kids ready for the next level.
Again, college programs are not about prepping players for the pros. It's about winning and job preservation. _
I think they discussed this during the combine, if a coach knows a player wants to go to the next level, a good coach will help that player succeed at the next level.
I do not believe a human being ingrained in self preservation will be benevolent enough to throw his own best interest below that of a 21 year old ready to make millions. Just a hunch. _
They could, and probably should, but as stokes said, their focus is on keeping their jobs and winning games. They use their players for their own ends. It shouldn't be that way, but that's human nature. Just look at all the varying opinions, philosophies, attitudes, approaches, etc. on this fan site. That's probably akin the the football coaches. Some are better humans than others. Some care more about their players and try to help them, others use the players to further their own ambitions and careers. Some are lazy, some are not the best educated/trained in what the proper fundamentals and techniques are, some are good "teachers," others are not.
I think the better question is why don't those teams have national titles? If I am a QB, I want to play in a pro style offense.
The answer is because they are NOT 3 deep with 5 star recruits at every position. When you are, you can afford to run an offense that is better suited for your QBs NFL future. When you are NOT, you run the offense that gives your team the best chance to win and disregard the NFL development of your QBs. Note Urban Meyer won the National Championship with Tebow and the Spread as well as a a version of the Spread with more traditional pro-style concepts this past season; whatever works.
Ummm, they do ? OSU is the reigning National Champ and they do in fact run a Spread offense. Going even further, 5 or 6 of the last 10 National Championship teams ran spread offenses. Only one in question is LSU in 2007. Can't remember if they ran Spread or Pro style.
Mariota is worth more to the Eagles than any other franchise at this point. As long as Chip Kelly is the coach there the Eagles will be running a spread as their main offense. Mariota has far fewer transitions to make if he goes and plays for the Eagles than if he plays anywhere else.
This year is a down(ish) year for qb, every draft analyst and scout has admitted that. I was just suggesting waiting another year to completely be able to make a decision on geno and getting some picks in return. 12 gauge is cardale jones, its a badass nickname I thought more people knew, my bad haha. Since making my post I have been watching the combine and now see that Mariota will probably not fall to us. I also am now intoxicated by kevin white, kids a freak. Would be sweet to grab at 6
Wouldn't it be equally as illogical to assume that there will be someone as good, or better than Mariota?
