I don't want to pretend to be an expert on the subject, but to my impression over the years that extra two inches of height makes a difference in the Qb position. At 6'2" a Qb is edging toward the small range in NFL Qb's. 6'4" is more in the middle. It helps seeing the field and getting the relreased ball over the DL.
you draft a qb until you find the guy who will lead your team for a decade. we havent found that guy, you would be a fool to pass on mariota.
Dude, haven't you read anything? We can just go get our franchise QB next year. Or the year after. This year it's about getting talent OTHER than QB. _
Spot on. And let's say the Jets do hit the bullseye with Mariotta and that their QB ship finally comes in; in the meantime how cool would the 'buzz' be going into training camp? And from there, reading (or seeing) to see the kid looking the part and "getting it" and growing by leaps and bounds into the position. And putting the Jets back in the playoff business as a 'player' and for years to come.....without the "Colts rested Manning/got in via the backdoor" swipes......but because they've now got their QB situation square away with a young gem. In short, who wouldn't be amped going into training camp with this kid in the ranks? Oh please Chip Kelly, don't pull another Jerry Glanville on us...
Next year I would hope we aren't picking in a position to get a franchise QB. Can't imagine we won't improve with all the cap space.
Couldn't tell you, there are so many comparisons thrown around - it's like they can't decide on a specific comparison. Maybe they just have a hard time evaluating talent.
I think that Vince Young should have had a better career and that many of his problems are from the neck up. As for Mariota there is a rumor (not sure if mentioned by someone else) that Cleveland has a big time interest in him. They just hired Kevin O'Connell as their Qb Coach. And Kevin has been working out Mariota and been his Qb teacher. That would be crazy if the Browns draft yet another Qb in the first or early rounds. Almost every year they select another Qb and then fire the coach and the GM. BTW their owner there is also on shaky ground after having to settle a major lawsuit against his company that could have criminal implications.
Did they hire him? I heard it was imminent but had not happened yet. I hope O'Connell keeps working with him and then they hire him because (i) the Browns will get docked their draft pick they were going to use to take him (it is so painfully obvious) and (ii) maybe O'Connell can teach Mariota that impossibly difficult skill of taking a snap from under center so when we draft him he's not as "raw". _
Vince Young had plenty of potential - not to mention he was very clutch and displayed that at the NFL level (I remember the 99 yard drive by VY against the Cardinals, great drive). It's unfortunate he couldn't keep himself together mentally. As a player, he was very accurate, could throw very well on the run, and ran the spread offense in college. Mariota has a better throwing motion - the comparisons were valid. Far better then the Eli Manning / Rodgers comparisons from the "Mariota camp" I guess people forgot all about VY and how good he was.
The comparison is not even close to valid. You cannot mention Vince Young without mentioning that he was a complete headcase, which is what destroyed his NFL career. There is no concern of Mariota destroying his career with off field concerns. Just the opposite as he has elite leadership and intangible potential. You'd have a hard time finding anyone that wouldn't take Vince Young with elite intangibles. Of course he never had that which makes the Vince Young comparison completely off base.
Well, if they decide Mariotta's play wont translate well into the NFL and pass on him, then fine. Let the cards fall where they may. But I think they should take Mariotta if available, because he has alot of talent and intelligence. If not Mariotta, they need to select a QB this year (Petty, Hundley etc.) and every year until they get their starter. Last year during the draft there were alot of guys on this board saying with all our picks we should take a flyer on a QB like Mettenberger. He was drafted lower than his skill set (early 6th round) because of an ACL injury and was reviewed highly by a number of draft sites. In the 5th we took Jeremiah George. Give me a f'ing break. And if they take Mariotta, the GM and Coach should be loud and clear that he isn't the savior of the 2015 season. He is a quality guy with incredible ability that needs to get trained in the NFL. It may take 2 months, it may take 2 years. But he doesn't start until he is ready. Difficult to do in this day and age where marketing and press prevails.
Tampa Bay is rumored to be cutting McCown after only one season. Which means they are probably going to draft one of those two guys. btw I wouldn't mind signing McCown at all. He was on a 2 year 10 mil pact with the Bucs but now you might be able to get him around 4 mil.
If you actually took the time to read my post you would see that I am talking about their physical abilities and tendencies on the field. Comprehension 101. I think this is about the 100th time I have said this.
That's what I was trying to say. I was trying to disprove Rictor's Sanchez comparison. I'm glad someone got it. Still waiting on him to give me a legitimate reason on how they are, in any way, similar.
Athletically, they are similar, but that's where the comparison stops. You could say Mariota is similar to almost any mobile QB to come through the draft and it be somewhat valid. That would include Rodgers, Wilson, Kaep, etc. Since apparently the "Mariota Camp" includes guys like Tony Dungy and Jim Mora, I think I'll listen to them over you. No offense.
Nowhere in the post I quoted did you say just there physical abilities abilities are similar. I saw you say the comparison to Vince Young is valid, which surely it is not. So first I chuckled at that stupidity then I called you out on it.
Read my previous post please. Learn to fucking read. BTW did you learn to spell Mariota yet? It's not Mariotta BTW.
Accuracy, throwing well on the run, the spread offense. Valid comparisons are there. They both didn't have elite arm strength. That's fine with me, I really don't care about this. I feel the same way about you guys as well. Bucky Brooks thinks Mariota will fall to the teens, and he's very well respected.
