Not only was there proof they were taping defensive signals during the SB's, I believe there was proof of much, much more. Why else would you burn the tapes? Are you seriously that naive? You honestly believe that the tapes were burned becasue what was on them was consistent with what the team told him? For real? Can you not hear how your owner and QB talk about these new allegations? Tom "I" did not tamper with the ball. No the EM did. Kraft We expect definitive proof (I.E a video of the EM putting the needle in the ball which we know you don't have becasue we made sure he did it where there were no cameras), not circumstantial evidence (I.E common sense that shows we cheated) Colts footballs not deflated in same weather while NE balls were deflated. EM making a detour with those NE footballs before going to the field where they magically deflated. Give me a break!
OK, I'm going to take the bait. The NFL is conducting a comprehensive investigation into why the Patriots balls were deflated during the NFC Championship. They are doing this in the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, and taking the focus away from the game and shining it on allegations of the cheating of one of the participants. It involves Gooddell's good friend, Robert Kraft. On what planet does this make any sense unless there is something there worth investigating? If it can all be explained away, as the Pats trolls on here contend, then why hasn't the league explained it away and moved onto the game? IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING THERE THAT IS HIGHLY WORTH INVESTIGATING! For every Pats troll that accepts Florio's 1 psi rumor as conclusive proof, we have Mort's 2 psi rumor. For every Pats troll who posts a link of some geek discussing Immaculate Deflation theories, we have NGT calling bullshit as well as the unaffected Colts balls (and there is no proof that the Colts balls' psi was 13.5 pre-game, so attributing that number to the Colts' balls is speculation). For every Pats troll who says you can't deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds, it appears that you can easily if you don't take them out of the bag (keep in mind that this ball boy must be highly skilled at what he does to be given this honor - Patriot Way for Life!) For every Pats troll who says this is just an easily-explained coincidence, we have Brady stuck between his seemingly OCD insistence, as evidenced by prior statements and actions, on having balls prepared his way and his statements after the investigation began that he just feels them once and forgets them, never noticing if they change during the game even when they get re-inflated at halftime. For every Pats fans claiming that there is no competitive advantage, we have the Patriots insane lack of fumbles and TOs over the years and the propensity of former Pats RBs to fumble when they play elsewhere (an article from 12/14 notes that the Pats were plus-151 in turnover differential since BB took over, which was more than twice that of second-place Green Bay at plus-74. http://www.packersnews.com/story/sp...offer-few-handouts-in-belichick-era/19640717/) We do need to keep an open mind about what this investigation will establish, but keeping an open mind means more than just figuring out what happened at the AFC Championship Game. Could the Pats have perfected a system of deflating balls? Is this a systemic, ongoing offense, giving the Pats an unfair advantage year after year? Will the investigation yield other instances of blatant cheating where the Pats have gained an improper competitive advantage? Were the refs involved in a conspiracy with the Pats, as some trolls have alleged? Could the Pats have filled the balls with hot air or even gas so they would lose pressure without manipulation (See NGT tweet)? Did the ball boy piss on Brady's balls, Moises Alou style? Let it play out - We'll see what the NFL discovers. In the meantime, I have every right to hold the opinion that the Pats are cheating scum and have never won a thing legitimately.
That's just it, instead of being a gigantic asshole he should be taking the road that the there was an anomaly and it is possible that some rules are broken and being the integrity of the league is at stake he should want an investigation.... let me guess does Odin Lloyd owe Aaron Hernandez an apology because his head happened to be in the way Hernandez decided to shoot?
I'd like to know if the ball boy has a habit of "taking a pee" before he brings the balls out on the field during other games.
If this is the case, I wonder if the league would ever admit it. It essentially places 95% of the blame on the refs, not the Patriots, but either way Goodell is in a bad situation.
So you are that naive? The evidence was burned. That is a fact. Anyone other than a blind homer can figure out why.
there is a simple solution to the equipment manager issue submit the tapes of the equiptment manager's actions before others games (i.e. pats-ravens) ... if he makes a habit of "using the bathroom" between receiving the footballs and delivering them to the field, then there is your smoking gun
Wait.... so you are using a tweet from a Boston radio show using unnamed sources to defend the Pats? That's the equivalent of using the ISIS twitter feed to defend why they beheaded these Japanese guys. Seriously I read the other one too and their "unnamed sources" told them the Pats balls were handed to the officials using the incorrect numbers but in order for the someone with the Pats to have known they were originally not correct they would have had to have knowingly not filled 11 of the 12 correctly.
Investigation is one thing. Leaking damaging information against a team that is getting ready for the biggest game of the year is harmful and a straight up character assassination. Why didn't they investigate the Pats findings on the footballs that BB reported in his press conference? They had time to do so. Why did they leak the story about video, without saying that it was a 90 second toilet break? Why haven't they given the official drop in the football pressure? Sources say 2.0, Pats talk about 1.0 to 1.5. And now they might have refs that didn't even inflate the balls to their proper psi level. That's their job after all. And that latest "source" is just as credible as all the other BS that the press has been given for more than a week now. You can't just handpick the ones you like the most or that fit your agenda.
you are right the NFL has done a horrible job investigating the Patriots cheating. Just like they did a horrible job with spy gate
This entire investigation is unnamed sources unless you consider "an NFL source" named. No one knows anything to be fact.
So you're saying the NFL is purposefully leaking details of the independent investigation to hurt the Patriots? Just want to hear that answer since Jets fans in this thread have been accused of being conspiracy theorists dozens of times in this thread. Strange how you accuse the NFL of conspiring against the Pats while in the same post laugh off the supposed leaks as BS. You can't have both guy.
Now that is funny.... character assassination. As for your questions maybe the NFL like most people who perform investigations don't give out information until the investigation is complete. Maybe they don't want to ruin the game by saying yeah the pressure was 2.0 and will deal with the shitstorm after the game. I'm not handpicking any sources... I'm just not buying some Masshole who does a radio in Boston as reliable.
