The problem with this is that you're wasting a lot of your later picks on QB's who, more than likely, won't work out. I'd rather spend those picks on other positions and try to take a QB in Rd 1. There's a reason he posted that list, and the point is this, you have a better chance of finding your franchise QB in the first round than anywhere else. That's a fact based on that list. Sure you can argue about how many of those guys have won SB's and which of those guys are truly elite, but wouldn't you take anyone on that list over the steaming pile of crap that has been the Jets QB over that past few years? I know I certainly would. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I want Mariota, real bad. I think he will become a franchise QB by whatever team he gets drafted by. He's got everything I want in my franchise QB. Maybe he'll never become that elite Peyton/Brady/Rodgers guy, but what's wrong with him being the next Wilson/Flacco/Stafford/Newton? Granted, it's no guarantee he'll become any of those things. This is just one fan's speculation about a QB prospect. If we go by that list however, it's pretty clear we need to draft 1st Rd Qb's until we find our guy. Mariota just happens to be that guy this year.
If Chip really wants Mariotta then he keeps Foles who has another year on a low cost contract and allows Mark who makes a lot more than Foles (and whose a lot better than Sanchez) to walk. I'd probably draft Mariotta. But would have zero problem if they trade down.
That's what is crazy to me. Everyone keeps saying, "let's wait until next year", "Hackenberg '16!!", " 2015 QB's have too many question marks", etc. A) Why is it guaranteed we'll be in a spot to draft any of those guys next year? (sure it's probable, but not a 100%) B) Next year's class of QB's have just as many ? as this years. Just like every single QB class since the NFL began. Hackenberg and Cook aren't slam dunk Andrew Luck type prospects. Hackenberg struggled something awful this year. Cook does look solid but maybe he regresses this year, anything could happen. Point is, why are so many hailing the '16 class as some end-all-be-all in terms of franchise QB's? It's not, it's just another draft, with another crop of QB's that might, or might not, be franchise QB's. If Mariota is sitting there at 6, the Jets would be fools not to take him IMO.
Please. Of course you do that deal. Know what's harder than drafting a franchise QB? Acquiring extra draft picks to accelerate the amoumt of time to replenish a completely diluted roster. The QB class of 2016 will be better anyway. Get extra picks so that you can fill extra needs and do it faster!
I would take that deal if Mariota falls AND winston.. THINK ABOUT IT.. Trade down to Philly's spot.....get 2 first rounders for next year and the year after. THEN....if Jameis passes us...he will likely fall down to the Eagles spot since there's not many teams in need of a QB beyond that. Maybe the Rams and Texans...but the Rams still have Bradford and the Texans might re sign Fitzpatrick. If they could get Winston at 20 that would be incredible. I don't find it an impossible situation because of Winston's off the field issues. He may very well fall as Geno Smith fell into the second round since teams didn't like reports of him texting/playing games when visiting teams. Winston has multiple questions including theft, rape, and misconduct. If he is found not guilty...he will still have red flags which may lead to his decline in draft status. I think he will be fine however, and I would absolutely take him at the eagles' spot.
Hackenberg is a big uncoordinated wildly inaccurate QB that can't avoid sacks. But he's big. And has a big arm. And did I mention he's big? Connor Cook has a career 58.3% completion percentage. That's in college where most everybody who's anybody is over 65%. Teddy was 69%. Mariota was 67%. Derek Carr was 67%. Bottles was 66%. But Cook has taken snaps from under center so he has that going for him. _
Your whole scenario is fantasyland, but 3 specific thoughts: 1. There is no way the Rams are passing on Winston for eternally injured Bradford and if you think the Texans are going to pass on Winston for Ryan Fitzpatrick then that's just an lolworthy pipe dream. 2. Geno did not "fall" to the second round, he was never a first rounder to begin with and Idzik likely saved him from being a third rounder. His WVU game was a mirage fostered by shovel passes (literally handoffs) to Austin and Bailey who took them to the house. 3. Winston has already been found "not guilty" in that prosecutors have determined there is not enough evidence to even charge him with a crime and he's been cleared by FSU for any misconduct. _
And as everyone knows, Mariota is dumb as a stump and is a lazy worker so there is no way he'll ever be able to learn to take snaps from under center and he's way too uncoordinated and unathletic to learn 3, 5 and 7 step drops. Arm talent and athleticism is overrated, it's learning a pro style offense as a 20 year old that really matters. _
It's mind bottling to me...you know, when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle? But seriously, next year is just another year in terms of QB prospects. There are a couple of prospects that look good, but nothing that makes me say "OOOMMMMGGGGGGGGZZZZZZZ WE HAVE TO GET HIM!!!!!!!" I'd rather take our chances with Mariota, if he's there obviously, than wait around another year and take a chance on another good QB prospect that we might not even be able to draft.
So get one in 4th, stack other holes, spend a year (re)evaluating Geno/Simms/rookie with new O system and get your QBs in 2016/17.
Why should we wait? Next years class is nothing special, and I don't think '17 will be either. Of course, both of those drafts are a very long way off and things could change. It makes absolutely no sense to not take one of the QB's from this class if you feel they could become your franchise QB. That's going to be the big question though. Will Big Mac feel like either of them are? My opinion is well known on here but I'm also not a professional scout. I guess we shall see here in the next few months.
If getting "the right one" was as easy as you make it out to be, there wouldn't be a 50% miss in the first round. Brady and Wilson would be drafted 1st overall. Yes, THEORETICALLY, you're right. But in practice your pick will miss more often then not and so to compensate you have to spend multiple picks. QB is THE position you have to fill and using multiple picks on QB is not throwing them away. Think about it: would you care that Jets "wasted" 4-5 picks over 2-3 years to finally get our Manning? Of course not - these 5 picks would be the price for setting the team with elite QB for the next 15 years.
Frankly, I was SHOCKED to see Bryce Petty during the Senior Bowl practices today able to routinely take snaps from under then proceed to perform 3-5-7 step drops without stumbling and bumbling all over himself. I would have bet the farm that a smart athletic kid like himself would have a lot of trouble accomplishing such a complex series of physical motions without the benefit of having played in an offense that required him to do so in the past 4 years. He was even able [gasp] huddle. Word on the street is that he "practiced" it. I wonder in Mariota is familiar with this concept of "practice"?
