You can't be serious! He did little or nothing to develop Geno, and his play calling is awful much of the time. Continuity just for continuity's sake is not good, if it doesn't actually benefit the team.
Dead serious. Who was the last Jets OC you liked? It's probably a safe bet that about this time next year, Jets fans will be complaining about whomever the next OC end up being.
You have a point about all OCs having their flaws (as do all HCs, DCs, other position coaches, GMs, and human beings). I was happy when MM was first hired. He was the best OC they've had in a long time, but that's not saying much. The Jets' OCs have sucked for a long, long time. Probably the last one I liked was during the Ken O'Brien-Wesley Walker-Freeman McNeil-Johnny Hector-Al Toon days.
so we should stick with the same jackass that oversaw offenses that were 29th & 28th in PPG (dead last in passing offense) over that last two seasons here.. Offenses that were the major factor in the dismissal of the entire front office and coaching staff.. but keep him around, the only guy left, forcing him onto the next HC, for "continuity" sake & because fans are always complaining about the offensive coordinator?? This makes sense to you?
That's a very long time ago. Probably half the posters on this board weren't even Jets fans then. I look at it this way MM is as if not more of an accomplished OC as than any of the candidates available. Bringing him back also has the added advantage of continuity and guys not having to learn a completely new offense. One of the key traits of the top QBs is their mastery of their offenses. They know their scheme like the back of their hand because they get to run the same offense year after year. What little shot, if any, that Geno has succeeding as an NFL QB would be in the same offense. In the end this is just message board fodder on my part as there is no chance in hell the Jets would do something that prudent.
It WAS a long time ago, but that's how long it has been since the Jets had a dynamic, exciting, explosive offense imo. I'm not convinced that continuity in MM's offense is Geno's best shot. I think he would have a better chance in Gailey's offense and with Gailey's tutoring, than another year of the same with MM, but I could be wrong. He might not succeed regardless of the offense.
He also never had an offense ranked less than 15th his 11 years prior to that. If our offensive woes were because of MM, Idzik would still be our GM. While not probable or likely, it does make sense to me. But what do I know.
None of Geno's issues (inconsistent mechanics, bad footwork, lack of anticipation, poor pocket awareness, low football IQ...etc.) are attributable to the scheme he is running. Not having to learn a completely new offense would be one less thing in the crazy long list of things he needs to work on to be a better QB.
Offense woes were a combination of talent & coaching. That's why the guys picking the players and coaching them both are out on the street. The Jets would have to be the dumbest organization there is to axe everyone but morningwood after what transpired here. And to force him onto Bowles? "hey coach bowles- offenses here were a joke and that's why everyone got fired. We hope you can fix that or else you'll be gone but here - work with the guy that designed that offense and called the plays.. good luck to you."
While it would be one less thing to learn, in Gailey's offense Geno wouldn't have to work at taking snaps under center any longer since he would be taking them in the Pistol or shotgun formation all the time. That would pretty much eliminate the footwork issue, which might be tougher to correct than learning a new offense. MM didn't seem to help Geno with any of his issues anyway. Gailey might have more success. Sometimes it's the way things are said/taught or just a different relationship or chemistry between the teacher/student that can make all the difference.
It's pretty dumb to fabricate an opposing argument to make a point. Who said the organization should have axe'd everyone but Marty? Bowles is the HC and should be able to hire WHOMEVER he wants, that includes, though not limited to, coaches that were fired as part of a previous Jets regime.
exactly. and there's no way he decides he likes Morningwood after watching 10 mins of game film on the Jets last 2 seasons. If he does and decides Morningwood is his guy then he will be starting his career off as a HC with his 1st stupid decision and likely won't last long.
We're in agreement on this. If Bowles had wanted to retain MM, I would have had some concerns, but would have accepted it. Who knows? If Gailey doesn't accept the job, maybe Bowles will ask MM to stay on. You may be right about MM and Geno. What do I know?
Putting the fact that Geno already took upwards of 90% of his snaps from shotgun aside, footwork is not limited to 3-7 drops from center. This is a common mistake many of the anti-Mariota crowd makes. The bold is similar to those that claim Mariota has bad footwork because he doesn't take snaps from center. Consider footwork as having rhythm and dropping from center has choreography. If you have rhythm, it's much easire for you to learn a certain choreographed routine. Footwork works the same way; if you have good feet (footwork), you won't have too much difficulty learning how to take 5-7 step drops, w/ or w/o play action fakes and/or 2-3 hitches...etc. Geno has bad feet or to continue with the anology, he can't dance. Compared to Geno, Mariota is Michael Jackson. Geno's feet and throwing mechanics are inconsistent at best and negates the above average arm talent he has. Those are things that should have been fixed well before he stepped foot on a NFL field. Things a very good QB coach might be able to improve if allowed to work with a player throughout several offseasons but certainly not something an OC is going to fix.
Tebow is the extreme example of this. Josh McDaniels wasted a 1st round pick [and I believe more as I vaguely remember them trading back into the 1st] to get him. McDaniels thought he could fix him. It's hard to fix/change things a kid has been doing since they probably started playing the game. By the time they are in the NFL, their mechanics is all muscle memory.
continuity itself is neither good nor bad. It's simply what the word sounds like.. no change or continuous consistency. I don't really have a strong feeling on it either way. If things are going well - yes I would like continuity. If Morningwood's offense was lighting the scoreboard up - yes I would like continuity. When it's the worst offense in the league and the worst at protecting the football, the last thing in the world that I want is continuity. (more of the same of THAT) I can't speak for Bowles yet but fuck I hope he's smart enough to think and recognize you need to make changes to this offense. That's the very 1st thing he should be looking to do.
