The new regime is in place. What do you do with $50 million in cap space?

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  1. DMarsh6

    DMarsh6 Active Member

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    How so? We have plenty of depth at the position and Sheldon is better who is locked up at least three more years. You can then use that space for Wilk on other positions and get some nice draft picks at the same time.
     
  2. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

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    He said 50 million, not 200 million.
     
  3. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    The only thing I wrote that might be unreasonable is getting both maxwell and Moore. Don't be a dick.
     
  4. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    CB and safety I would address in the offseason. I would love to steal McCourty from New England or Rahim Moore.

    We can draft a receiver in the first three rounds, as for a backup TE I like Jesse James in the draft. Great blocker and he's a huge body with reliable hands.

    I would also sign Franklin or Iupati.
     
  5. TonyMaC

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    its so tempting to go balls deep and spend on every shinny name available but even with 50 million dollars of cap space we need to spend wisely, especially if we want to retain talent down the road and build a sustainable winner.

    idzik took this too far, but he had the right idea. we're not in win now mode, spending every cent on big names isn't gonna assure a super bowl and for that matter it might hinder us down the line.

    lets continue to build through the draft, retain our guys and use free agency as a means of filling gaps not solving issues outright.

    that said, i start by re-signing Mo. i noticed that a lot of contracts given to big time d-ends have a similar trait; they all have a very heavy use of roster bonuses and a singular heavy cap hit year that then subsides over the next couple of seasons. (look at Watt, McCoy and Quinn's deal for reference)

    i'm thinking that this space presents a very good opportunity to try this with Mo. say at the behest of a big signing bonus he instead received a 10 million dollar guaranteed roster bonus due a week after signing the extension in addition to a smaller signing bonus worth 5-8 million and the 7 million he was already making. that makes for a very huge cap hit in 2015 at something like 18-20 million, but remember we have the cap space to take such a hit and its a means of paying Mo his worth NOW rather than him taking a more spread out cap hit or being harder to part ways with him down the road.

    (this kind of deal should only make him uncuttable for cap savings for the next two years, so for those afraid of missing out on re-signing Shelly don't worry this shouldn't get in the way, in fact it might make it easier to re-sign him AND keep mo later)

    the deal should pay him something 25 million in the first two years, perhaps through a combo of basses and bonuses he makes another 30-40 million over another 3-4 years.(the structure may vary really) I think thats very appropriate for Mo, and its very doable on our part. we may even be able to get him for a bit less than I mentioned.

    with that done and with the thought that i've cut CJ and Pace we still have 42 million. next lets first round tender snacks (mmm… tender snacks…:p) then lets just say I've got 9-10 million reserved for the season and draft.

    We got 30 million dollars left. time to go after some free agents.

    first things first, CORNERBACK. we actually have too MUCH youth there, not to mention injury concerns. we need sign a vet maybe two if we can bare it. It may prove wise to make up for our inexcusable error last year and sign Cro. he'll want to be in a stable set up, a 3 year 10-12 million dollar deal might do. maybe we give tramon williams a call, thats another older-3-4 million a year kind of guy whos gotta lot to provide despite being a stopgap.

    or maybe we want more than a stopgap, we want maxwell or kareem jackson, players hitting their prime looking for paydays. thats cool too, but I still think calling a 30 plus in tandem with that is in our best interest, experience is a valuable thing.

    lets just say we spend another 8 million on free agent CB's in 2015. oh yeah, btw, WE HAVE NO SPACE FOR REVIS. he can go to buffalo or new england or whatever we have no space for mercenaries who will only be around for one or two VERY expensive years at best. he cant solve our CB problems over the long term, accept it and move forward.

    David Harris might have some value to us yet, (if a 36 year old Foote can be somewhat productive under bowles surely Harris can to)hes a qb for theD that has to be respected, but his cap hit should be more than cut in half. a smaller prove it deal should give us what we need to know… look out for new MIKE's in the draft… 3 million.

    and now with 18 million left we're gonna sign a low cost veteran QB.... Moore…Mallet…Hill…uninspiring but it is what is (notice cutler fans, that after addressing a few needs we're a little strapped for a 15 million dollar player.) lets just say we pay them another 4 mill.(market price for jag qb's)

    15 million left… my that space sunk fast. heres where I think theres gonna be disagreement…I think theres only room for maybe one more significant signing if that.

    the positions I've filled are ones I feel as though could only stand to gain anything by getting a free agent vet. the rest might not be best filled by an outsider or non-draftee. we were never gonna solve our problems in one year after all, so maybe just sign one other name and bring back a few low cost re-signs who might not make it out of camp like salas or jarrett or powell, rollover the rest to next year and call it a day?

    CJ spiller is a guy I liked but is he a necessity or a luxury?

    justin Houston… had a stellar year but I'm uncertain if he's the OLB we need to replace pace and once again seems like a luxury signing for a team ranked 6th in sacks. (this D requires a pretty fair pass cover SLB, is houston known for that at all?)

    Mike Iupati… his name gets thrown around a lot, but I'm not sure he's worth it for us. yes… he's a great run blocker but he's also an average pass protector… do we need to break the bank for a guy like that? isn't aboushi already a decent run blocker and fair pass protector at a younger age and cheaper price? Its not that I'm unaware of the importance of the line, its just that I think he's kind of a luxury signing not certain to be worth the 7-8 mill it could take to sign him.

    im not certain we really need any new free agent receivers or tight ends, but them I'm bullish on Harvin and amaro in this O. this being my list, I keep them and don't worry about it.

    so… yeah, I think I'm done. let the draft play out, keep our pieces and evaluate the likes of harris, Harvin to see if their keepers. damn this was a long post...
     
  6. TonyMaC

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    :eek: wow, i wrote a WALL of text…

    uh, apologies, I've had a lot on my mind evidently.:oops::confused:
     
  7. BleedGreen4ever

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    Idk why people think signing Justin Houston is a good idea. Yeah hes a monster and would make this d-line insanely good and that can't be undervalued, but we already have THREE guys on the d-line that need to be paid and at a very high salary at that. And to a lesser degree a guy like Coples still needs to be signed. If you think a d-line wins championships ok, but I just don't see how we can invest that much money into the d-line. Unless you want to gamble and hope the corners we have will miraculously learn how to be #1 guys or that we will dominate the draft on the offensive side of the ball for years to come. We need balance, didn't the last six years of drafting defense teach you anything we need to invest on both sides of the ball, evenly not dump 13.5 mill for houston, 11 mill for wilk, 11 mill for sheldon and 6 million (conservatively) a year for these guys. Wasn't everyone against dumping those type of dollars into our CB position a year or two ago now we are going to do it on d-line even more. It doesn't make sense.
    I say invest in an Offensive Gaurd like we did with Faneca, that move worked out brilliantly and we could replicate it and get the running game going like its 2009 all over again. Add in a a guy like CJ Spiller and now we are cooking with gas, and can make our shit QB's life a lot easier.
     
  8. 74

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    People want Houston because he's an OLB and he had 22 sacks last year.
     
  9. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    Because I don't think you break up the strongest part of your team

    We have money to extend wilk and sign other players

    You don't see teams like Seattle letting their strongest players go
     
  10. jdon

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    I think signing Will to that kind of money means we are saying goodbye to Sheldon when the time comes, and I think Sheldon will be a better over all player.
     
  11. jdon

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    Cumberland must go. Pace must go. Harris, too, unless he takes a reasonable deal. As for DL, you pay for sacks.
     
  12. NCJetsfan

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    Houston isn't a DL. He's an OLB. He would make our secondary better and probably create more TOs as well as more pressure on opposing QBs.
     
  13. joykilla

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    Wilk

    Iupati

    Cro

    Can't do it all in one year boys.
     
  14. TurkJetFan

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    Two possible cap casualties of potential interest:

    Jake Long
    Brian Orakpo
     
  15. NCJetsfan

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    Both make way too much money, and both are older. Pass.
     
  16. 101GangGreen101

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    I'd take a small chance at Jake Long, if he's cheap. He could be a stop-gap at RT and I believe he's an upgrade over the awful Breno. I agree w/ Orakpo.
     
  17. al_toon_88

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    Revis, Cro, Randall Cobb, CJ Spiller (I'd say demarco Murray but even at his age he'll probably demand a long term deal with a lot of $$$ guaranteed).

    If Mariota falls to #6 (unlikely) and Chip wants him (actually more unlikely in my opinion), deal him to Philly for Nick Foles and two firsts.
     
  18. BleedGreen4ever

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    Well he is going to get franchise tagged so its a moot point.
     
  19. NCJetsfan

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    Probably true, but even if it isn't, it's just a pipe dream as far as I'm concerned. He'd tie up too many cap $s, and the Jets could probably sign at least 2, if not 3, FAs who could help multiple positions, and thus have a greater impact on the play of the team. If they were one player away, it would be one thing, but they aren't. The morons should have drafted him when I wanted them too.
     
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  20. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    After you get two CBs and at lease 1 safety, a QB and an edge rusher you can spend the rest of the money however you want.
     

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