I totally agree. We're force fed the race issue because using race has been a crutch for many for a long time.
Berkeley, MO, just outside Ferguson, a police officer shot and killed a black male who pointed a gun at him. Of course the crowd that gathered response was to throw bricks and set off explosives (probably fireworks). Some questioned why he shot someone who pointed a gun at him rather than tasering him or pepper spraying. http://news.yahoo.com/violent-crowd...-kills-18-year-old-in-missouri-153730065.html
And there lies the problem. Let's not ask why someone's parents and community didn't do a better job and teach someone not to assault or for fucks sake pull a gun on an officer. Let's question the cops response. And the "it's everybody else's fault give me attention and free shit" parade continues.
Exactly and the fact he had an illegal gun in the first place is a major part of the problem. I am completely for legal firearms, I own one myself, but there needs to be major penalties for illegal firearms. I am talking 10 years for the first offense, especially for a previously convicted felon like this guy was. There is no reason he should have a firearm and if the penalties were extremely severe we might be able to cut down on it some.
Exactly, I'm starting to believe my friend whom I once thought was a crazy loon that says welfare and entitlement programs are racist because they send the message that "black people can't get ahead on their own and need the white man's help" his exact words. At first it sounded crazy but there is a serious and generational problem that people on a certain side of the political spectrum seem scared to talk about.
Its true. My kids graduated HS last year. I sat through the ceremony and even though my kids had better grades than most of the students receiving the full scholarships,and came from a single parent home,they were not the ones getting the free rides. The scholaships went to mostly the black kids,some of whom come from the nice neighborhoods,and had both parents. I did not see one black person in that crowd calling them racist for assuming they needed free college money because they are black.
The sad part is that going to prison is like a gang level graduation for some people,its actually glorified.
100% agree. Penalties for committing gun crimes should be extreme. As with anything I'd want there to be exceptions ... like the case recently with the mother who accidentally drove into another state with her handgun and got pulled over. Obviously someone possessing a legal firearm who hasn't caused any harm or tried to cause any harm shouldn't be penalized so harshly. I'm pretty sure they did let her off, thankfully.
That was a tragedy. My original remark was a sarcastic remark that some cops go a little overboard with force and how their actions show dangerous precedent. People who live in projects are evil? Poor people are evil?
he said "some" evil people. are you arguing there aren't any evil people in the projects, because that is what you are saying if you are disputing his statement.
Few people like everywhere are truly evil. I would say most in the projects are trapped in a cycle of poverty.
And some refuse to get off their ass. And some would rather find an easier way,like crime. The word "cant" gets really devalued when illegal immigrants cross the border with barely a shirt and surpass people in the projects with business ownership and education.
TypeO, you're pretty passionate about this topic, so surely you are willing to consider that the pathologies you refer to in the projects are in some way related to 250 years of slavery, followed by 100 years or so of legal racial discrimination, in some places backed by state-sanctioned terrorism, followed by institutional racism that exists to this day? I mean, the successful immigrant merchant/industrious class you are talking about are usually the solid middle class in the their countries of origin, they are coming over with a lot of advantages people in the projects don't have. I'm not saying this excuses bad behavior by anyone, but there is a context to that behavior that you perceive as some blacks "would rather find an easier way." There have been very few ways for them at all, going back through generations.
They aren't coming over with any advantage other than determination to succeed and not make excuses. Poverty does not create a lack of values or destroy initiative; it simply makes a good excuse to place blame to on the broader concept of personal failures. Enough black adults have succeeded despite being raised in poverty to refute this claim. But it hits that perfect emotional spot to illicit support.
So illegal immigrants have an advantage over people born here? Right..... I wont argue that African-Americans have a brutal and very sad history in this country however many are doing well for themselves today without needing to sit back and blame it on events that happened over 100 years ago. There are many people who dont want to work or do anything much for that matter and will blame it on being born black. And as for your earlier post I said some evil people I never said every person in the projects is evil
