Article: Jets got a good man in John Idzik

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  1. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    i hope the next g.m.has the same well rounded resume as J.I.
     
  2. The 1985er

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    Willie Colon was a solid free agent pick up last year.
    Darrin Walls has been a contributor
    Dawan Landry has been a steady player in the secondary.
    Antwan Barnes was solid before he got hurt.
    Eric Decker has been our best receiver.
    Jason Babin has been solid all year
    Chris Johnson has gotten comfortable in his role now.

    Yes he's had bad free agent pick ups like Mike Goodson and Patterson. But you're not going to be perfect.

    He's done a good job picking up decent players off the scrap heap to fill a role.

    TJ Graham
    Ed Reed
    David Nelson
    Zach Sudfeld
    Greg Salas
    Marcus Williams
    John Conner

    Look at his drafts.

    When healthy for the past few games Milliner has been good/solid

    Sheldon Richardson is self explanatory.

    Geno Smith has been up and down for 2 years. But he's shown flashes the book isn't written on him yet.

    Winters has struggled but he's still young he can get better the book isn't written on him.

    Oday Aboushi has looked good since taking over for Winters.

    Tommy Bohannon has been solid as a starting FB.

    His first draft has given us four guys that became contributors (Milliner, Richardson, Aboushi, Bobannon) not the best draft but it's not as terrible as it's made out to be. Geno and Winters are young and can still improve.

    2014 is still too early to tell. But so far Amaro has been arguably the best rookie TE. After struggling for a few games Pryor has been playing much better. Plus we've gotten solid contributions from IK and Reilly on special teams. IK quietly had a good game against the Titans a few weeks ago.
     
  3. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    A guy with personnel AND cap experience. I doubt it.
     
  4. legler82

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    I may be wrong but I could have sworn you thought this was a 11-12 win team prior to this season. Did I remember correctly (too lazy to look it up)?
     
  5. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Dude we are fucking 3-12 soon to be 3-13.
     
  6. Section 336

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    Yeah - but more than half of the fan base was predicting 11-5, 10-6 and playoffs, which would indicate Idzik did his job.

    Now when the team sucks at 3-13 the same fans are blaming Idzik claiming Rex didn't have the players to do his job.

    You can't have your cake and eat it too.
     
  7. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    No it just means half the fan base are morons.
     
  8. The 1985er

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    I'm responding to a post. I'm well aware of our situation. We are about to be 3-13. But we have a solid foundation in place for the future.
     
  9. Section 336

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    OK - I will give you that.

    I thought 5-11 at best.
    But I thought Idzik had an okay off season and I still feel he does not deserve to be canned.
    I felt that Rex should have been fired after year 4, definitely after last year and now without a doubt this year.
     
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  10. hardcharger

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    There is so much wrong with the Jets a new GM is a necessity. Idzik is a finance guy, the Jets need a guy who knows personnel and can stand by the coach in disciplinary decisions. Both Ryan and Smith talk too much about themselves.

    Today, I'm looking to see Jimmy Garropolo gain some experience, he's better than Vick, Smith, and Sanchez ever were in first year backup.

    Watch a really good quarterback.
     
  11. legler82

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    My point is does it matter if a player is "solid", "a contributor", "steady", "our best [insert position]", "gotten comfortable in his role", "starting"…etc… on a 3-13 team? What you have to ask yourself is how many of the players that fit the aforementioned descriptions could do the same on a good playoff contending roster?
     
  12. The 1985er

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    All of them?

    Decker and Giacomini were opponents in this past years Super Bowl and this year they were solid/good contributors on a bad team.
     
  13. CJLang

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    Idzik spent his time as the Jets GM digging them out of cap hell. Little did he know that another GM was going to reap those benefits moving forward.
     
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    And this is why I am thankful Idzik will soon no longer be and you likely will never be the GM of the Jets.
     
  15. Br4d

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    I thought they were an 8 to 11 win team. Then Milliner got hurt and the Jets didn't replace Geno when he was sucking every week. Shit happens.
     
  16. Jake

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    They were never in cap hell. Im so sick of hearing about that. He had space to acquire talent this year and chose not to. His own fuckin fault.


    Tannenbaum was a cap guy too, all it took was cutting 5 guys to get into a decent cap situation.
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    That "Idzik saved us from cap hell" narrative really baffles me when even my wife could predict who was going to get cut at the end of 2012 to create cap space.
     
  18. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    So between

    Walls
    Landry
    Giacomini
    Johnson
    Decker
    Colon
    Barnes

    If healthy who couldn't be a contributor on a championship contending team?
     
  19. Br4d

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    Cap hell isn't just about where the number is. It's about who you are paying in the number. Right now the Jets have the ability to move forward and pay their young players without having to auto-cut people like D'Brickashaw Ferguson and potentially Nick Mangold a year down the road. They could actually choose to bring back David Harris at a reasonable deal. They could make a deal for a QB to stabilize the offense under the new head coach.

    Very little of that would have been possible if the Jets managed the cap poorly last year. It'd be really easy for the Jets to have $10M in cap space this year and a couple more aging free agents on the roster and no real flexibility moving forward.

    That's where the Jets were for the last 3 years of the Tannenbaum era, which is why that era ended like it did.
     
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  20. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    lol ... you think anyone posting on this site will ever have a chance to be GM of the Jets? you see yourself as GM material?
     

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