Dumb poll and thread imo. There is absolutely no reason to bring Rex Ryan back. None. If their only option is Rex Ryan or Dan Quinn for HC, I vote for folding the franchise.
Not trying to be a dick, but calling someone a retard while misspelling a word is kind of ridiculous. As for the article, it says how Landry, Noll, Walsh, and Ditka had losing records in their first few years and went on to be great coaches. The main thing I got out of that article is how far off his point is from what it should be. Landry went winless in his first year, Noll won 1 game, and Walsh won 2, which to me signifies a lack of talent. Landry then went 4-9-1 in 1961, 5-8-1 in 1962 and 4-10 in 1963, which shows improvement, he did take a slight step back in his last year, but 1 win isn't that big of a deal. Noll went 5-9 in 1970 and 6-8 in 1971 which, again, shows improvement. Walsh went 6-10 in 1980 which is better than 2-14, improvement. He didn't show Ditka's numbers, and after looking them up I know why. Ditka went 3-6 in the strike shortened year(1982, his first year with the Bears), and followed that up with an 8-8 record(1983), and 10-6 the next year(1984). I bet you can guess what I'll say....improvement. These coaches might or might not have been fired today, I honestly don't know. What I do know is that every year, with the exception of 1 year for Landry(1963), these coaches improved their football teams. If I were a GM I wouldn't have fired any of them because they took 0-3 win football teams and turned them around in anywhere from 2-5 years. The problem with Rex, and I'm only addressing Rex because this is a Jets forum and I lack the concern to do this for the other coaches. Rex went 9-7 in 2009, 11-5 in 2010, 8-8 in 2011, 6-10 in 2012, 8-8 in 2013(and let's be honest, should we really have been 8-8 last year?), and finally the absolute best he can do this year is 5-11(which is doubtful, probably 3-13, with an outside chance of 4-12). That shows me regression, not progression. Sure, our team has fallen apart over the past few years, so I don't think we can place the blame all on Rex. He has surely contributed to this dumpster fire of an organization though, and that is why his ass is on the chopping block.
Insult me all you want Rex has more playoff wins then anyone in franchise history. Would probably be at or around the franchise all-time win % mark if Idzik signed a competent CB this offseason. He might not be popular here but ik for a fact he's highly respected in NFL circles. He beat Tommy F'ing Brady and Peyton F'ing Manning back to back in the same postseason. Proven SB champ with Ravens. Rex isn't blameless but not a single coach in the NFL could've made the situation Idzik handed him this year work. I'm not saying Rex won't be fired Black Monday, hell he probably deserves it. I just know it was one of the best runs with some of the worst QB play we've ever had. I really hope he gets the Falcons job next year we'll see what he's made of.
There's no "probably" to it. Rex deserves firing as much, if not more than any HC ever fired in the NFL. He was the DL coach with the Ravens when they won the SB. You state it as if he was the HC. I disagree that not a single coach in the NFL could've made the situation Idzik handed him this year work. In fact, there's probably not a HC in the NFL who couldn't have done a better job this season than Rex has. A more disciplined coach, would have had his team playing tougher, smarter and not beating themselves. A more flexible coach wouldn't have stuck to "his system" and would have played more zone. A better coach would know more about offense. A better coach would have some alternatives ready if his game plan wasn't working and would have made better adjustments. A better HC wouldn't continually lose following the bye week. A better HC would have his team better coached and better prepared. A better HC would be a better game and clock manager. A better HC would have changed his approach when things kept failing week after week. A better HC would have handed Vick his head when he wasn't ready to play at San Diego and used him as an example. He would have read his players the riot act. If need be, he would have singled one/some of them out. He would have done something to get their attention and have them showing up for games. Rex is a clueless dumbass and I despise him. IMO he's worse than Richie Kotite, because Richie didn't have all the bluster and stupid excuses and comments that Rex has made. I have zero respect for him as a football coach or as a man. He disgusts me and can't be gone from this franchise soon enough. Your post just shows how amazingly blind and naive (I'm being kind) some Jets fans can be. IMO anyone who thinks Rex is a good HC and/or wants him back should be doomed for eternity to watch him coach the last 2-3 seasons.
all because he used the lord's name in vain. that's quite a lot of hatred you harbor as a christian...
Just because you're writing style is more thought out doesn't make it not bullshit. Should be fired more than any coach in NFL History? Worse than Kotite? That's a joke. I know he's a good HC idgaf what you think nor am I spending one more second in this thread.
if you think rex is bad at developing talent then you must not pay attention to much besides where the ball is in football. dee milliner has looked good in the action hes seen. its too bad he seems to keep getting injured. maybe he needs to take better care of himself in the offseason. I think it was a mistake to let cromartie go. they should have restructured. then they signed a headcase veteran and we have a team that is going out there with 4th and 5th year fringe players. we are still a top 10 defense statistically. its not easy to find those kinds of coaches. its too bad they need that kind of coach for offense because idzik failed to bring in talent to the organization. injuries happen in the nfl and you have to plan for them. idzik was supposed to be the guy that built depth through competition but its just too bad that the competition level on the team overall is so low. thats on the gm. the coaches can only do so much and i dont think its fair to question a coaches ability when the players he has to work with are just plain not as good as the guys they are playing against. rex is most likely gone after this season. i would want to keep him but i doubt there is any way woody forces rex on another gm. so unless the gm just really wants to keep rex, i dont see it happening. but he is a good coach. its just unfortunate that the jets organization couldnt bring in the talent to let his coaching really pay off.
You're a moron. The only two options were Rex or defensive coordinator (and, by implication, unproven HC). This poll was obviously constructed to make keeping Rex seem much more reasonable than it really is. The choice of Rex or unproven, defensive HC is simply a false dichotomy. The hypothetical posed by the OP as well as the reasoning behind it (WTF does Trestman being a lousy coach have to do with the price of tea in China?) is idiotic because there is no reason to believe that the Jets will be operating within the confines of such a narrow point of view.
The way I see it, you have to fire them both or keep them both for another year. If Idzik is going to get another year just because his track record isn't long enough (not my position, but one a lot of folks hold to), and we let him hire a new coach, where does that leave us after we suck it up next year? We have to fire both or Woody saddles another new GM with a HC, which seems highly unlikely. If you want to give Idzik one more year, he should be stuck with Rex for that year. If we're letting him hire a new HC, we are saddling up with Idzik for at least 2-3 more years until we see what we've got. I don't care how much cap space we have, or how high our draft pick is, no good HC candidate is going to hitch his wagon to a GM who is already on a very very hot seat. I say fire both. Post Haste.
And I'm not opposed to another Defensive-minded HC. I know some people think we just have to have a great offensive mind in there, but I there are plenty of good HCs out there that were DCs and still manage to field an excellent offense. I mean look at Tony Dungy, Tom Landry, Don Shula, etc. Just because a coach came from running a defense doesn't mean he'll run this team the way Rex has.
Before this year, if Rex was out, the main candidate was Idzik's pal Quinn from Seattle. I am just curious if you guys would tolerate another defensive specialist.
Are the Bears really worse than us under Sanchez?! I haven't crunched the numbers but it sounds hard to believe. Sanchez never had a QB rating anywhere near 90, or 66% completion ratings, as I recall. I thought Cutler was decent, not bottom of the barrel. Maybe I'm wrong though.
