I'm hoping Idzik / Rex / Scouting DEPT isn't here after the last game of the yr. The newly hired scouts would still have about 2 or 3 months to evaluate players prior to the draft. Plus you got the senior bowl and combine. Jets can turn this around. All on Woody though.
Agreed!!! Now, if we hire any scout worth the flippin' "salt" they'll already have much of the college talent "dialed" in and will only need to adjust to the needs of the team, specifically.
I'll tell you what's going on - you have a hard time reading posts that's whats going on. Read my entire post before you start typing crap. I said he would need to come here at a cheaper price. IDK how it happens but it needs to.
Polamalu also has way, way better ball skills and football instincts for the position that far exceed Pryor's. That is why I am most disappointed in Pryor. He's not a rookie making simple mental mistakes or even a guy being outmatched physically. He is showing a severe lack of football awareness/god-given instincts. The angles he takes to the receiver are just awful. Rex is using him as strictly an edge rusher at this point because that's the only thing he can do... run towards the ball... where it is right now.. not where it's going. Very discouraging for a safety... and way behind Clinton-Dix his draft counterpart right now. I am more discouraged about his long term future in this league than I am about Milliner - and that's saying something considering Milliner had a rocky rookie season and is currently rehabbing a crucial injury for a player in his position.
Good for you, not that you now agree with me, but admit changing your mind. It takes a standup poster to do that, imo. So I was wrong about calling you an asshole, too. Heh. Yep, it would depend on a reasonable price.
I took "if the price is right" as what we would have to trade to the Bears. Even after clarification, I wouldn't give up two 3rds for a mediocre QB that is about to be 32 when we are nowhere near ready to compete.
Cutler? YUCK!! He had two of the best WRs in football and....nothing. Please, at least get a retread with a history of success, not some overrated prima donna who hasn't come close to delivering the goods. You think you're pissed at Geno. Imagine how pissed you'd be with Cutler fucking shit up against Belicheck. That's not a matchup I'd want to see twice a year.
Not sure where all this Cutler talk is coming from. I live in Chicago; I'm not getting the sense from listening/watching the local media and fans that he's about to get the Sanchez treatment this offseason.
This follows a discussion last week. First of all I don't see the Jets getting Mariota, even less so than last week after winning the Tits game. And Winston seems like a very bad match for the Jets even if he falls to them. And in any event the Jets will need a vet Qb. Now concededly if they got Mariota that vet could be a real stopgap like Hoyer. I like Bradford more than you do, but the Rams look increasingly less likely to want to part with him. Not so for the Bears and Cutler. I think it more likely than not Chicago looks to move him. I've said it before - Cutler is a mid tier NFL Qb who has several good years likely still in him. He'd be the best available fit for the Jets to develop a younger Qb, even by looking for one in the draft from time to time until they find one. No better fit is out there. And while I totally agree with your point about competent management, this is after all a thread about what the Jets SHOULD do, not what they will do if an incompetent GM is retained.
Hmm, I think part of that is because Rex Ryan doesn't exactly let players learn how to play their positions. Instead, he relies on exotic blitzes that don't rely on fundamentals. I believe it's hindered Pryor and everyone who hasn't played his system for a significant period of time. And, most of the time, these blitzes haven't worked. Ryan's defensive calls this year have been terrible: putting Richardson and Coples in coverage on important 3rd downs. Blitzing when playing coverage is the right move. And playing Pryor in the wrong position and with debatably horrible intention. People are giving up waay too early on Pryor. He's bad because the scheme sucks and doesn't let him learn to play safety the right way.
I read a few columns including two in the Chicago Tribune last week about how not only does the FO have buyer's remorse about his contract but that the contract is an embarrassment to the current management. If you follow the logic through they sound reasonably likely to move him at a fair price. It's just not a good situation to have a public perception that your starting Qb is, in the view of management, grossly overpaid.
Sure it does...The guy could play in college; he wasn't missing tackles and taking poor angles there. He is with the Jets. Figure it the fuck out!! [said because I'm frustrated; don't take it personally...] You take poor angles because you're out of position. You're out of position because some nutcase refuses to let you play coverage; instead, he has you lining up in weird places, trying to trick the offense. Instead, he's tricked the player. Two things: Pryor's probably a better SS than FS. They had him at FS. 2). If you don't practice playing coverage, you're not going to play coverage very well. You'll see, the Jets defense will be 1000% better once they stop relying on exotic blitzes and let these guys play fundamentally sound defensive concepts.
Only the Jets make moves to counter "public perception". In this league; it's better to have an overpaid QB than to not have one at all. Your Honor I present to you exhibit A, the Jets. Cutler is not going anywhere at least for the foreseeable future. Trestman, however, is probably a goner.
Don' t agree with this at all. I watched/singled out Pryor many times during the season. He's always near the play at the finish and has shown to be intuitive at knowing where to go at the snap. I think his problem is is that Rex has put him in a system to try to cover the weaknesses the secondary has shown. He seems to be hesitating at times to decide where/what has to be done when the play unfolds. Rex even admitted this in an interview about the issues with the CB's and noted some players are put out of their true environment. Given time with experience and some shoring up with the secondary, Pryor's talents and impact will be very apparent.
Interesting thoughts. I agree with you on some of Ryan's schemes and I get really P.O'd when I see Richardson and Coples in coverage. I don't think that's why Pryor has struggled though.
To answer the bold, depending on how the draft order ends up Tampa might think Winston + extra picks > Mariota. Not to mention Winston is a pseudo local product that will be more NFL ready. Them being a trade partner is not completely w/o reason.
he's near the play at the finish?? Really? being one step behind everyone isn't something to be encouraged about. When the ball is in the air he is a horrible safety.
