I could have responded with a jumble of random characters and it wouldn't have taken anything away from how stupid those two sentences were.
Rextasy is a pretty super original nickname. Is that what happens everytime you finger your bootyhole?
YES IT FUCKING IS!!! Just like how I don't root for the jets, but I hope they beat every team they play. GTFO with that bullshit… apparently... actually you might THINK you have the future in mind but you really don't, not when you hope present pieces to this team who WILL be around play poorly, which you MUST want if you want the team to lose. you're rooting against players that might help your precious QB who's not on the team yet succeed genius. MM or winston won't be helped by a team that plays poorly and we shouldn't root against players that are here so we HAVE to rely on a prospect to save the day. NO, evidently not... I don't want to make myself feel better, I just don't think I can call myself a fan of this team by rooting against them at any point, least of all when they play rivals. And I'd rather the pieces that we have on this team at present find their own quality formula than pray a college star HAS to save a team with nothing going for it. If Aboushi, Johnson, Ivory, Davis, Pryor, Harvin,Decker, Amaro, and MANY others have good finishing performances that lead to victory in 2014 doesn't that bode well for our chances next year? Isn't the team in a better spot to win with pro tested pieces already here? Once again by rooting for your team to fail you're rooting against their future. what a tragedy players already on roster who play well enough to win in bad circumstances would be, don't be good till we get the guys we don't even know work in the pros get here! its so counterintuitive when you get down to it...
Tony let me ask you this. You think we have players playing good enough to win right? So where the fuck are our wins? You THINK all of those players are going to have good finishing performances but you and me both know that's not going to happen. And even if it did, what would be the point? We're playing for nothing right now. Literally playing for nothing man. I know the situation sucks and I wish with every fiber in my being that we were a playoff team this year but we're not. We're not even close and that's the point. Winning right now only hurts us, keeping us away from top tier talent. I don't root for this team to lose and I don't have to, they're going to lose anyway. I just consider it a good thing that they're losing at this point because I want that top tier talent and if losing two more games gets us there, then so be it.
But instead you decided to sound like my 13 yr old son instead. I suppose that isn't too far off from your super funny nicknames.
Wins mean somebody somewhere on this team is doing the job well and that can ONLY be a positive for this team going forward. because its one less thing to worry about next year ya'see, it means we have pieces that can help us out already here that have found a winning formula. we don't have to hope we find players that can win, we'd know we had them on roster (in some areas at least) and all that does is help us in our ultimate goal. Do you want to be the team with nothing good to hold on to and more to do to fix the team, or less? Less right? well wins are a side effect (weird to call it that…) of good player performance in some facet. Moral qualms aside, practically speaking theres nothing wrong with earning wins, ever. Its better for the circumstances that lead to wins to occur than not, it just helps us focus on our strengths, build camaraderie and have a better base to build off from in general. I think this belief that losing for draft position is a good thing derides from an overestimation of the impact that ONE high end prospect will have after a bad season. fans tend to put guys up on a pedestal as a coping method, so the idea of doing ANYTHING to ensure this savior comes to their favorite team supersedes the need to see a black marked current roster doing well. L's turn to W's by virtue of being closer to drafting mr.savior… except they don't, losing just means nothing is going right, and theres no guarantee one player is worth as much as their touted so even the supposed W's that were SURE to come as soon as we tanked may not arrive. losing to win is a crapshoot proposition AT BEST, at least winning now means we've already got pro tested elements that have found a rhythm. FAKE fan is pretty disingenuous in retrospect, counter intuitive fan is a better way to describe it. Why hope for a winning team later when having one now has more benefits? the only way losing is better is if its assured a draftee will be there and be as advertised… which isn't possible, so… i guess tough it and *gasp* root for your favorite team to win.
That's my whole point though. We don't have a winning team this year. It's impossible to have a winning team this year so you might as well improve your draft position. And speaking towards the notion that losing for the draft is a good thing. There's a reason for that thought, it's worked before. Look at the Colts, there it is. The team we beat in the playoffs in the 2010 season, following season they lose Manning and only win 2 games. A lot of people are under the assumption that they willfully tanked that year just to get Andrew Luck, costing them their head coach his job in the process. So while it is no guarantee of success, success can be had.
So if you have no shot at winning a Super Bowl in a particular season, you immediately root for losses? that's a whacked way of looking at things imo. fuck, we had no shot of winning the Super Bowl before the first game. I wanted to win games then anyway, and i still want to win them now. Every game has meaning. I expect the team to take the field with pride each week, and do their best to win. we still have the Patriots and Dolphins on the schedule, and i'm not about to root for them to beat my team. and just stop with the Andrew Luck stuff. There is no Luck in next draft, and we won't have the number 1 overall pick.
If I called you a pigeon-toed necrophiliac, would that offend you? Or what if I called you a three-elbowed spelunking addict with an oversized pancreas? Would that make you mad? No? Me neither. I can't imagine getting offended by an insult unless there was some truth to it that touched my insecurities.
I agree with Axel, you can't be a "fake" fan of the Jets. Anyone who has the balls to don the green & white is a true fan through and through, no matter if you root for them to win or lose for better draft positioning. I remember dropping my son off at school after the 1st loss to Buffalo, wearing my Jets sweatshirt & hat, and one of the other parents saying to me,"you'd still wear that after last night"? My answer was "yes, i'm a Jets fan win or lose". Sad but true.
OP, I hear you and empathize with you. I've been accused of being a Giants fan and what not. With that said, having a slightly better drafting position is not going to right this ship and if the team were structurally sound, it wouldn't matter much anyway. It wouldn't bother me if we ran the table for the end of the season.
....semantics.....minutia.....'picayunity'... That was (sucessfully) playing for the right to go to the SB. Besides, as an always-rooting-them-to-win Jet fan, I like to cite our successes. That blustery day seems like yesterday Now you could've said 'AFCCG' but I'm reading between the lines, that is, I see what you did there with your cunning, hyped-up 'SB' wording you sly goat you (read: "Mark...sob!....oh Mark, the franchise misses you so...") : )
i love the jets.. but this team is never going to win with out a QB. and for that reason..for the future of this team...i wont them to loose so they can aquire a qb... winning games hurts them....seriously
No, I don't root for losses when we can't win a Super Bowl. You're not always going to have the winning formula every year and if this team was actually competitive I'd say , "Fuck it, let's smash who's ever left in our way". But when it's a season like this, where it's over before the midway point. Then yeah, I'm starting to position my team to get the best possible talent for next year. And like I told Tony, I have never and will never root for another team to beat the Jets. I just think it would be better for the teams' future if we lost these last two meaningless games.
So with a potentially franchise changing QB almost sitting there for us to grab, you're okay finishing 6-10, drafting 11th or 14th or 16th and maybe grabbing a CB? Maybe we grab a "developmental" QB in round 4 that--in this draft--will never amount to anything? This is a unique year. This isn't 2013 when it would not have mattered. _
Sure was. "..one for you...one for me........two for you...'one, two' for me........three for you...'one, two, three' for me...."
I remember when my older brother told me he'd give me a dollar for doing something for him--some menial thing and I did it. He took one of my sister's dolls, pulled out a strand of it's hair and said "here you go, one doll-hair". Prick. _
