Player responsibility

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  1. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    huge criteria in evaluating players for future contracts........how much effort shows up on their tape during a lost season?
    they absolutely are accountable, and could be costing themselves.

    just an example, there have been rumblings about MoWilk's effort level lately.
    i don't know if its true, as i haven't studied all his tape.
    If it is true, it could cost him quite a bit. His best fit is in Rex's system, and that system won't be in place next year. Teams will be studying him, including the future Jets FO.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think he'll be a lock for DC at a contending team next season. He'll probably get immediate results, and will have a HC job in 5 or less years.

    I just hope he doesn't end up with a division rival. But since Revis is in NE... pretty safe bet.
     
  3. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    What pisses me off as a fan is that we pay money to see these guys loaf around out there. It would be one thing if they fought hard and were simply lacking talent, but there were so many times where they were unprepared or half-assed it out there. To make a fan pay $100+ for a ticket to see that shitshow is outrageous. I am starting to look at this like this team is stealing money from us.
     
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  4. GreenWhiteandGold

    GreenWhiteandGold Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for posting that as I hadn't seen it. I also love Sheldon and brought his jersey back from ny last year. It's too easy to just go through the motions for the players, somebody has to hold them to account , if that somebody is Sheldon then so be it
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    A team without a QB is a rudderless ship adrift on the current.

    Look what happened to Houston last year when Matt Schaub suddenly couldn't do anything right and was in fact the cause of a lot of the on-field performance issues. Straight down the pooper.

    The thing that has defined the Jets season this year more than anything else is the coaching staff (and maybe FO also) being unable to come to grips with the fact that Geno Smith was costing the team 7+ points a week on offense. It's possible that Vick wouldn't have been any better even with much more time to prepare after an earlier Geno hook but the fact that it took so long to do that basically trashed the season more than anything else.
     
  6. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    In terms of the bold, how can you possibly still think that after the way Vick has actually played? It's not like we haven't seen him out there.
    He looks to me like a guy who doesn't want to play.
     
  7. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    It occurred to me today that maybe the idea was to have a true competition in camp, but Vick looked to be so inadequate that the CS had no choice but to roll with Geno. I wonder if the whole "sham competition" narrative is false, and Vick just never showed up in the preseason.
     
  8. Pocket Jet

    Pocket Jet Well-Known Member

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    Eex
    Rex getting the shaft? ! More like the fans that are getting that treat.
     
  9. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    That's not true at all,Rex has had success on the highest of levels against the toughest oppenets on the biggest stage ,When your judging a coach you need to look at the entire body of work not just the bad.He has won 4 road playoff games with Mark Sanchez as his QB .That's not gonna stick out on his resume?Marvin Lewis has been the Bengals coach for what?like 11 years?and he hasn't won a single playoff game.Out of 6 seasons with Rex as head coach we have had two losing seasons.9-7,11-5,8-8,6-10,8-8,2-9.The one thing I can say about Rex is if you get to the playoffs with him there's a reason to be excited.Rex will get another HC job next season
     
  10. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe this. As a matter of fact i think he will be the first coach to find a job. Hell ATL Owner & GM will be sitting outside of the Jets headquarters the day he's fired waiting to bring him down to Georgia.
     
  11. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I think Vick checked out when he realized the Jets weren't going to go with the quick hook on Geno. Really Geno should have been benched by halftime of the Lions game. He was costing the Jets points on a regular basis by that time and had 20 starts with no proven ability to generate points against anything but a really weak defense.

    The Jets had 5 straight 3 and outs after the opening FG drive in that game and they weren't generating anything on offense.
     
  12. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    I just don't see it. A commentator on a network, no doubt. A DC yes. A HC, there is no reason to do this because of the distractions and the loyalty issues he has.
     
  13. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    Loyalty issues ? Like what
     
  14. APK 8

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    This. The Falcons will have a new GM as well (the Belichick disciple Thomas Dimitroff didn't get the job done.) The owner, Arthur Blank is building a new stadium for 2016 and is selling PSLs. He needs to excite the fan base to motivate them to buy tickets. He succeeded doing this once by drafting Vick who is still loved down here. Rex is theperfect fit to energize the fan base. And he'd have a legit Top 10 QB on the roster for the first time in his coaching career. Wins and Losses won't matter as much in the first couple of seasons - bringing an attacking style of defense to Atlanta and some swagger to the franchise is what he'll be hired to do.
     
  15. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    Matt Ryan is trash now.. But I agree with everything else.
     
  16. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Your point is valid, but it also goes against human nature. You obviously must have a pretty competent boss. Have you ever worked for a boss that was totally clueless? I have. While I have a strong work ethic, in the times I've worked for idiots during my life, I had to struggle to work hard, and didn't always succeed. It totally undermines that work ethic and desire when you think, "What's the point, the idiotic manager/boss is just gonna screw it up or undermine it anyway?"

    I'm sure the Jets' defense has been frustrated by the idiotic play calling and inept play of the offense, and probably to some extent with the refusal of Rex to change. His lack of instilling discipline in the team and holding the CS and players accountable encourages players to dog it rather than work hard and play hard. Similarly, I'm sure the offense has struggled as well with play calling, inept play by the QBs, a refusal to adapt, to moronic play calling, etc.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    ROFLMAO! I don't think that Arthur Blank is as blind and naive as you.
     
  18. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    ROFLMAO!!! The perfect fit. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A HC who lost his team 3 out of 6 seasons he was HC? A HC who is undisciplined and doens't hold his players and CS accountable? A HC whose record following bye weeks is 1-5? Get real. You are totally clueless.
     
  19. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Hold on NC, I usually agree with your posts, however if Lovie Smith could get a second chance at being a HC, it could happen for Rex also.

    Not saying he is going to be any good, but the possibility is there.
     
  20. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Good post, Brad. I think you are right on both counts. That was the time to bench Smith. After it the Jets got nothing for leaving him in there, culminating in the shit show of the first Bills game.

    And while I don't like the net result of the way Vick was treated, and also now concede he is definitely showing his age, it's not hard to understand why anyone in his position would have felt the team had a different agenda than winning above all else when Smith stayed on the field.
     

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