John Idzik's record compared to the 31 other NFL GMs during their first two years with the team. LINK: Idzik NFL GM comparison
They don't. This is just meant to point out how the other NFL general managers began their careers to see any similarities between the ones that had success (Seattle), and ones that didn't in relation to Idzik.
How many Super Bowl winning regimes ever started a season 1-8? serious question? Seattle? No Ravens? No Giants? No Im not going to research this to hard but have any of the Super Bowl regimes ever had a season like this? cant recall.....
8-8 to 2-8 is definitely a steep drop off for Idzik. I say give him one more offseason and draft to finish making his impact on this team. There's a chance he gets canned and they bring someone else to finish the rebuild, but besides not blowing all our cap space and finding blue chip NFL ready late round picks, what has he really done wrong?
Quick research -- The Colts were 3-13 in 1997 in Bill Polian's first year as GM. They won the Super Bowl nine years later with Polian still in charge. Ted Thompson's GB Packers were 4-12 his first season and went on to win the Super Bowl several years later. That's recent memory. Colts started '97 started 0-9. Packers started '05 started 2-7.
Yeah see I only started watching in 2004....cant really recall to many of recent times. We dont have Favre or Peyton coming in the building either...... In my humble opinion Idzik has to be removed. Its not fair but the Jets will be in an ideal position to become a good football team instantly, IF the rights moves are made. We have money to spend, draft picks, decent players to build around.......
Too be fair... a much as this season sucked, JI needs more time to fix our problems. This could be his big learning experience out of the way early, hopefully he sees what went wrong and doesn't let it happen again. We're still in pretty good position for the next few years. A QB, a couple of CB's and we're not terrible. Not going to Vick earlier in the season, hurt us. He did the best he could once the season started to find decent CB's to fill our needs. Some worked out, some didn't, but once the season started, there's not a lot to pick from. We did get better in other positions, that should help long term, but with a very good WR draft, we missed big. Even with excellent CB play, and Vick starting, we might still be 4-6, 5-5, maybe 6-4 at best. Still not going anywhere this year. Bottom line... we had a terrible team that needed talent everywhere, no way to fix that in 2 seasons. Tough to watch, but year 4 should be a huge improvement.
idzik is a disaster, no two ways about it. you can't preach building through the draft and then draft as horribly as he has and save face. plus sitting on 20 plus million (before his desperate harvin trade) and expect a new York team fans to accept it while we start 1-8. not in ny....not with the giants winning every 4 year and Yankees sitting on 28 titles.....not here, not now.... ....and he comes across as completely over his head and clueless.....keeps rex as hc and doesn't understand what rex needs for this team to succeed(cb's). Didn't understand how piss-poor our wr's were and that decker alone was not the answer....especially when our biggest obstacle in our division signed a player who would completely negate him anyway(pats/revis). we need a completely new start, new gm, coaches, scouts, trainers, and god willing, a new ownere..... until then, I don't think anyone cares how he stacks up against gm's who have no bearing to our new York jets whose only claim to fame right now is ripping off there faithful fans with silly PSL's like they are worth a damn since you can scalp tickets cheaper in the parking lot than pay the thief Woody Johnson.
Dallas cowboys...1-15 in troys first year. Jimmy Johnson filled the coffers with draft picks by trading HW to Minnesota and proceeded to build from the inside out, a couple of years later they were a SB winning regime. But he was a great HC with wonderful foresight and built a team to reflect his philosophy, and everything fell in place for him. He also had a very good staff surrounding him.
The thing about firing Idzik is very bush league. And to have members of the press actively encouraging his dismissal it really sucks. The guy has been here under two seasons. Was stuck with a head coach and front office personnel from the previous regime. Which was a prime reason 3 or 4 other guys turned down the job. Plus the team was 8-8 his first season which most everyone thought of as a rebuilding year. Almost everything that could go wrong did go wrong this year. Players at key positions like CB he tried to sign went to other teams. Injuries. His team has been out coached almost every week. As for his drafts: are you 100% sure his key players are going to be busts. Like Milliner or Pryor. Or are they future good NFL starters. Too early to say.
I'm not sure about those two, but I am confident the ones that have been cut already, will not be future NFL starters for us.
Just one more thing about Idzik and how I think he's getting jobbed by some of the Jets beat reporters. After he signed Percy Harvin a few of them instead of giving him credit threw in a few unnamed sources from the Jets front office saying how it was a desperate move on his part to save his job and too little too late. Well, you can imagine who some of those sources are. Basically he signed Harvin because he was suddenly available and cheap. And maybe he had an advantage because of his relationship with Seattle and the player. So instead of saying good job, Idzik to get a potential impact player they find a way to discredit the guy. So far: Percy looks like he's going to be a real good signing.
Idzik's drafting is his biggest downfall. Not signing over rated free agents for short term gain isn't a big deal. I'd rather we be building for a Super Bowl and agree with Idzik's free agent decisions rather than make short term free agent signing to feel better about this season. Obviously if he doesn't make good long term personnel decisions then he has failed but that simply can't be determined yet. But his drafts have been disappointing.
There is something very common sensical about the question. New regimes are usually brought in because the team has performed poorly, and it stands to reason they don't turn it around the very first season and thus have bad starts.
Yup Pryor and Milliner and Amaro will really set up how we look at Idzik down the road. I like the Decker signing a lot, love the Ivory and Harvin trades. This draft, which I think he should be around for, will be important offensively. Need some OL and/or QB coming up.
