Looks Like You DON'T Have To Wait Three Years to Judge a Draft

How does this mean anything?

 

its a bit intellectually dishonest to definitively judge a class this early. Its easy to do, but can one really be sure results won't change with time and a players first few months in the league are indicative of their overall career arcs?

The most you can do now is judge the beginnings of their career in a bubble. 2014 inarguably sucked in that regard for us. anything more is impossible to tell with objective assurance.

maybe dakota Dozier becomes a stud right guard for us or something and really need this year to adjust, who knows...

 

I've already told my future self that the 2014 Jets draft class is terrible.

 

Sorry to do this, but I'm going to re-post (abridged version) from another recent thread. I'm not sure people saw it, and if anyone has an answer, I'm eager to hear it. Because otherwise, this "wait three years" thing makes little sense.

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Can anyone actually recall some jets draftees -- in the last ten or fifteen years, say -- that were very disappointing/invisible initially, but then turned into players of surprising quality two or three years later?

Yes, it's seemingly sensible to wait a while to evaluate. But if we can't think of any bone fide late bloomers, then what's the point?

Who was a bum early on, got killed by the forums, and then turned himself into a truly quality player by year 3? WHO?

 

'Brick

 

no way. Ferguson started at LT from day 1. And while he wasn't the player he would become initially, he wasn't getting benched and/or cut. He showed flashes right away.

 

http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/dbrick-dbust.25107/

 

It happens everywhere. It's happened here before, I'll throw out some names:

--James Farrior looked like a very disappointing bust LB his first couple seasons. He progressed nicely years 4 &5 here just in time to leave in FA and have a 15 year career with a couple pro bowls and an all pro season in Pittsburgh

--Laverneaus Coles was viewed as a disappointment by many his rookie season and half way through his second season. It clicked about halfway through his second season. although he did show some promising flashes I guess here or there.

--Jerricho Cotchery was looking like a throw away 4th round pick until it finally clicked for him in year 3.

---Bryan Thomas had a horrendous rookie year and a poor second year. That coincided with Ed Reed's dominance right out of the gates (the pick that should've been) lead people to develop a hatred for him. And while he was never a pro bowler he had a good 10 year career here, an 8 sack season, a valuable veteran on those AFC Champ. game teams.

Those are a few decent examples. I'm not saying Idzik's 2014 draft picks will end up like any of those guys. Right now that draft looks UGLY but at the same time hope isn't completely lost in those players.

The Giants in particular have a lot of players that were late bloomers. That organization has a strategy not to panic or give up when players don't flourish right away and it has lead them to developing good players. Not saying that will be the case with these Jets draftees - just saying it's not too uncommon that players who struggle their rookie year can become good players later on.

 

well I'll be dammed

 

Matt Slauson, Dwight Lowery, Eric Smith, Drew Coleman, Sione Pouha, Derrick Ward, James Reed, Dedric Ward, Marcus Coleman, Richie Anderson, Glenn Foley, Victor Green, Adrian Murrell

 

And there are players that play well early on and eventually fade away and don't end up being that great; not all of these guys that NFL.com mentions will continue to play at high levels. You really can't fully judge a draft class 10 weeks into the season.

With that being said, it is disappointing and a bad sign that many of this team's draft picks have been cut, are not contributing whatsoever, are injured and are producing much less than some other rookies of the same position on other teams.

But it's waaayyyy too early to call Pryor a bust especially with all of the craziness in the secondary. Amaro can definitely be classified as a guy who is at least showing flashes. McDougle was earning a lot of praise in camp prior to his injury and could still be a player if (starting to look like a big if) he's healthy. Heard mostly bad things about Shaq Evans, but he was injured early in camp and it's too early to write him off. Dozier was a good prospect that many of us liked and is taking a similar path as Aboushi, who has now put together two consecutive good games with his best against Pitt. Enunwa is getting a chance to grow on the practice squad. IK is still on the active roster and Reilly is actually contributing some on special teams and defense. Plus now we have UDFA Marcus Williams who has had two straight very solid games.

Obviously we wanted more from the rookies by this time, but too early to ultimately make a call on the 2014 class

 

Anytime the Oakland Raiders are above you in any positive category it means that you're just doing a piss poor job lol.

This shit just makes my blood boil when you see all the misses Idzik made. Of course there's always exceptions and you can't with 100% certainty say that this is the career trajectory for all of these draft picks. Yet it's definitely a strong indicator based on what the rookies have shown so far. What you see early on is typically a sample of what you'll get for years to come. There's always a few late bloomers that take a few years to develop but those are the exceptions, not the norm.

 

That's crazy, that thread was made after 2 games.

 

A bit hasty there, aren't you?

 

Wasn't he drafted in '06?

 

Yeah, whoops thought they were talking about him 2 games in during his rookie year. Didn't see the timestamp

 

and maybe I win the lottery but what chances are more likely?