Sanchez Kicking Ass In Philly

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  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    It's not about the changing times, it's the QB. Geno has awful footwork, hence him taking the majority of the snaps at the gun.
     
  2. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Even on Sunday when the Jets should have just been grounding and pounding with Ivory, they instead did a bunch of cute stuff out of shotgun and failed. I hate that part of MM's offense, too.
     
  3. abyzmul

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    He doesn't have that reputation for nothing. I was actually shocked that the Jets ran the ball so often in 2013.
     
  4. 1968jetsfan

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    Awww, poor stokes....all he can talk is talk trash. schoolboy temper tantrum from a fanboi. nothing to do with football, just name calling trash.
    And here's the thing, my time is too valuable to waste on someone who just defaults to the lowest form of namecalling without any discussion of actual merit. In short your a waste of time, worthless. You're comments aren't worth the electricity spent reading the empty name calling and insults that have nothing but hatred...you can say I have a hatred of Sanchez...that's fine and even if it were true at least I have a sound basis for that as a football Quarterback.

    Even Dilfer and Gruden couched the praise they gave to Sanchez with "its' only one game", "His history of turnovers", and "That it was against a very bad pass defense". Guess they're sanchez haters too then, right?

    Sanchez had a nice game, he took care of the ball, did what a good qb does when the other team turns the ball over 5 times in their own territory.
    He had a nice game.

    But....and you'll call me a hater for pointing out the truthful context....He was playing against the leagues 2nd worst pass defense and out of 7 drives that started in Philly's territory only 2 resulted in points...that's a point of concern..
    but, again, he played a very nice game overall...no complaints....

    But because I put it in context of being 1 game and being against a poor defense, both of which are true statements, you'll call me a hater for not praising the "chosen one".
     
  5. nyjunc

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    actually it's 2 games, he played the majority of the game at Houston last week and was really good.
     
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  6. soxxx

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    Yep 2 games, he came into a 7-7 tie game and walked out ontop 31-21. So far so good, and I expect it to continue all the way to:

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  7. JStokes

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    LOL didn't read except the last line. I thought you had me on ignore?

    Put me back on until Sanchez has a bad game because right now you sound idiotic.

    I never proclaimed him to be the "chosen one", just that he had a nice game last week.

    And again this week.

    Yet you still feel compelled to dump on him because of your metrics and spread sheets and fake stats from 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 years ago.

    Let the hate go, it's pathetic.

    If he has a shitty game you know what I won't be doing? Defending him, because I expect it to happen, I'm just happy for an ex-Jet trying to redefine his career.

    You're just interested in shitting on an ex-Jet even when he plays well.

    You're otherwise a good poster but this vendetta you have, well, it's just pathetic dude.

    Wait till he has a shitty game till you dump on him again. You'll get your chance.

    It just wasn't last week.

    Or this week.

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  8. JStokes

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    He can't control himself, it is eating him alive that Sanchez has played 2 decent games in a row.

    He's the worst of what Jet fans have to offer.

    Shitting on an ex-Jet constantly, even now that he's gone.

    It's a compulsion that I can't understand yet I pity.

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  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    they have a much better shot than we do to make it there.
     
  10. soxxx

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    Its impossible to tell right now because neither QBs actually run Kellys offense to its fullest extent. Sanchez with his mobility gives it more potential, but Kelly wants a Kaepernick type of guy, because then he can add more confusion an options to an already powerful offense. I think Sanchez is more likely to be back as the starter, but again it depends what happens......they could attempt to get Mariotta, they could trade for Kaepernick (which might open up if Harbaugh bounces, although unlikely Colin is trade, but still)......

    The ending result will determine a lot, of his offense gets stuffed by the Lions or Cardinals then he might be aggressive, but if Sanchez were to take them to the Super Bowl, then it would be illogical to attempt to advance the offense if its already Super Bowl worthy...... But I believe Foles may have taken his last snap in Philly tbh.
     
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    Oh they have a great shot....if Arizona is the #1 seed, and Philly is the #2 seed, Lions #3 seed, its pretty easy. As long as Philly can avoid taking a trip to Green Bay, New Orleans, and Seattle, they will get to the Super Bowl. Lions and Arizona play this weekend, so this could be telling, Eagles play Green Bay, so this could be really telling to. If the seeding ends up like this:

    #1 Arizona
    #2 Philly
    #3 Detroit
    #4 New Orleans
    #5 Green Bay
    #6 Dallas

    Philly is going to the Super Bowl.......book it.
     
  12. Hobbes3259

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    Because they are incapable of accounting for the second level, coaching...
     
  13. Hobbes3259

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    Imagine that.

    Commentators refusing to discuss the failures of ...coaches.

    How does any discussion of Sanchez not include some examination of Schottenheimer, who was expected to develop him, and build an offense around him...

    or Sparano.


    you know...the two guys presiding over the 30th and 32nd ranked offenses in the NFL right now.
     
  14. 1968jetsfan

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    So if I say he played a nice game, he protected the ball, etc..I'm dumping on him because I kept it in context?
    You say I keep dumping "fake stats" from 2-5 years ago, yet where I have referenced any "fake" stats any time in the last 6 months? hmmm? But you're the one who argues that an interception wasn't an interception.....
    But you see here's the problem duchebags like you have, you have short term tunnelvision. You don't see the big picture, you only see the here and now and make excuses when things don't fit.

    I am consistent. Big picture...if I had wanted to "Dump" on Sanchez I would point out that he only completed 54% of his passes against a team that going in to the game with teh leagues worst pass defense had allowed a 69.7% (+/-.1) completion rate.
    But I didn't. There were a lot of things I could sit and nitpick on, for example the lack of ability to drive from the Eagles side of the field on 72% of his 7 eagles side possessions, I mentioned it but also said he did exactly what a good qB does when the other team turns the ball over on their side of the field, score points.

    I said he had a nice game, but that's not good enough for you, for you that's dumping on Sanchez....because you have your boy so high on a pedestal that anything short of saying he was superfantastic isn't good enough for your.
    Instead your patheticness needs to turn it all in to "Dump on Sanchez"....

    You call me pathetic, perhaps you should look yourself in the mirror...maybe we're both pathetic, but at least I'm honest and consistent in my evaluation not just of Sanchez but ANY QB. I apply exaclty the same standards to ALL QB's...period.
     
  15. 1968jetsfan

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    Let me ask you this Hobbes, if the only way a QB can succeed is to be surrounded in a very QB friendly system with outstanding weapons around him then how good of a QB is he? Foles was a good QB because of the weapons and system, Sanchez is benefiting from the same....If you have to blame the Coaches for his failures then you have to praise the coaches for his successes...and if the coaches are responsible for both then what good is that QB? If all that's true then the qB in question is just a JAG at best.
     
  16. JetsKickAss

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    He may be able to get him.....the SF fans want Kaepernick guy OUT with all his struggles. They think a guy with all the weapons he has should be doing much better -- sound familiar ?

    Only teams no unhappy with their QB's are Denver, Green Bay, New England, and Oakland.

    Oakland is too unhappy with everything else to worry about their QB !!
     
  17. Hobbes3259

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    Hardly the point.

    Under Schotty every QB from Drew Brees, thru Pennington,and Brett Favre, underperformed.
    And given your first supposition, then Joe Montana and Steve young were worthless because they p[layed for Bill Walsh, with Jerry Rice, John Taylor,. Dwight Clark, Tom Rathman, and Roger Craig?

    The problem was never Sanchez, the problem is/was organizational.

    if you refuse to accept that, nothing I can point to,(like Idzik's handling of it...for instance) will convince you.

    whatever.

    Idzik year one (I want Sanchez gone)....'Competition at every position"
    Year two (Geno is MY BOY)"Mike Vick will bring a positive veteran influence".

    Sanchez, ...I'm releasing him AFTER there is no chance of him starting week one and making me look bad,.

    that's a decrepit organization.
     
  18. legler82

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    Come on dude. While prospects don't always reach their full potential, JAGs don't get drafted 5th overall. If you can watch Sanchez play and see JAG then you must be watching games through your score sheet.
     
  19. 1968jetsfan

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    It's entirely the point you've been making. A Good to great QB lifts the team around him, a JAG is dependent on the team around him to lift him.
     
  20. 1968jetsfan

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    Lots of Jags, or worse have been drafted 5th. You're draft selection only matters on draft day and in the initial rookie contract...other than that afterwards it's what you do on the field and not your draft place that makes the difference.
    Everyone in the NFL has tools, it's whether or not they learn to master those tools at the NFL level. A lot of NFL JAGS were drafted in the first round, a lot of stars were drafted after the third round.
    Where you were drafted means nothing after draft day and contracts, it's about what you do on the field.
     

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