What good does it do for players to want to come and play for Rex, if they play like shit when they get here? Many players today don't have the drive to be the best, the work ethic or discipline. It's up to the CS to instill and demand that. When your HC is just about having fun and not getting in anyone's face or holding CS or players accountable, players wanting to play for Rex is not a positive.
Come on, guy. You're smarter than this. Almost any coach can win with a lot of talent, so this article isn't deceiving. I don't believe the roster is as talent-less as you say, either. The CS has failed to develop over 90% of their young players. Yes, Tanny put the Jets in a void with all the trade ups and bad picks, but Idzik hasn't made many head scratching picks. He's picked highly-rated players who haven't played up to their potential (except Richardson). Rex's ignorance of offense and the team philosophy/atmosphere he creates doesn't help young QBs. Ryan has more issues than he does positives, and it isn't even close.
Thank You for that Slimjasi. There you go then. One crummy win of a bye in almost six years. If you do nothing else as a coach the most basic thing is Motivation, getting your players prepared. In this area Rex has failed miserably.
I respectfully disagree. We have one of the worst rosters in the NFL. Our corners are no where near starting caliber players. Calvin Pryor, while I love the pick, has been everything but what was expected. Our receivers are absolutely terrible other than Decker and newly signed Harvin. The offensive line is terrible. And let's not forget the most important position in the sport, quarterback, is a joke. So where are we at? We have no corners, no safeties, a terrible offensive line, mediocre wide receivers, and a complete idiot at QB. All picks made by Idzik. He signed no corners in the offseason. Drafted one that was put on the IR. Pryor has been pretty poor. Every receiver we drafted has been cut or put on the practice squad and our offensive line has been built from picks like Winters, that have been absolutely terrible. Rex Ryan did one hell of a job when he was provided talent. We had receivers like Holmes, Edwards, and Cotchery. We had a beast at running back in Thomas Jones and then had great production from LT. We had a stacked offensive line and a hall of fame corner paired with an excellent corner. We had talent and our record showed that. The same guy who coached those two teams is the same coach we have now. Just sit down and compare the rosters to now. The problem isn't at head coach. The problem is the scouting department and the GM. Don't blame Rex for not being able to build a young QB. Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith both don't have the tools to be a good nfl QB. It's not Rex Ryan.
How did you feel about Gary Kubiak in Houston? Or Mike Singletary in San Francisco? I'm not defending Rex, but I don't think any coach can win in the NFL w/ talent
Well this guy pretty much nailed it. this should be mandatory reading material for every rex ryan apologist.
Can't disagree with any of this. My issue with Rex is that he has shown ZERO progress in becoming proficient in the offense as a HC needs to do. On D he's failed miserably this year in preventing the big play. You can't bring the house if you don't have the talent on the back-end. You can't keep blaming lack of safety help on big plays and not get it corrected. Someone needs to mentor Pryor on the field and make sure he knows where he's supposed to be on every play. That could have been Cro but he's in AZ now. The corners on this team have enough trouble trying to play their own position let alone help a struggling rookie so he looks to be on his own. In that case its critical that the CS makes sure he knows where to be.. have him look to the sidelines for signals from the CS each play, send in instructions for him with the rotational players etc. but enough of just blaming lack of safety help.
And honestly, that's my only issue with Rex. He knows he doesn't have the secondary, and as the article stated, why bring the house every single time. We saw this against San Diego. Rivers picked us apart because he just waited for the blitz every time. If Rex is fired, I hope it's seen as the reason you stated. He needs more experience and needs to fix the issues he has, but he really has been dealt a bad hand. Idzik really pinned him in a corner this year. The lack of talent on this roster is appalling.
I respectfully disagree that we have one of the worst rosters in the NFL. It just seems that way because the CS is so inept at developing young players and at putting them in a position to succeed. None of us knows how the present core of players would play under a different HC who was disciplined and demanded accountability. There are certainly questions at CB. Milliner may never develop and McDougle may never develop or stay healthy enough to stay on the field. At S, Pryor was great at Louisville, and hasn't lost his talent. Used in the right way and with proper coaching, he should be a very good starter. Allen has shown flashes and played very well at times. He isn't a CB. He belongs at S. Perhaps if Ed Reed hadn't been brought in last year, Allen would have been playing at a much higher level now. The problem with S as I see it is that we don't have a true FS. Both Allen and Pryor are SSs. I agree that the OL needs to be upgraded, but don't believe it is terrible. Mangold is getting long in the tooth, and I've always thought that Jets fans overrated him, but he's far from awful. Brick has been decent in the past but is getting older. I've said for a couple of years that his replacement needs to be brought in and developed. The OL has been playing better this season that last year. The Jets have had success running the ball and Geno hasn't been running for his life on 90% of the snaps. CJ2k has been misused/underused or been a mistake, but the Jets have quality depth at RB in Ivory and Powell and the kid on the PS. Kerley is a good slot receiver. I've never been a fan of Decker's, but he's a capable #2. Idzik should have drafted a quality WR or two this year. He didn't. I don't like our TEs at all, but maybe again, that's how they've been used/coached rather than they just suck. We have one of the best and deepest DLs in the NFL. Davis is a quality young LB. We have a reliable K and our P has been better this year. STs play has been better. This team shoots itself in the foot with sloppy, undisciplined play, with stupid penalties, and imo a poor job done by the CS getting them prepared to play each and every week and in making in-game adjustments. Yes, those teams with Thomas Jones and Cotchery did very well, but that's because they were smart, disciplined players and their were veteran leaders on the team. Rex also enjoyed the bump that players' coaches always get following an oppressive strict disciplinarian like Mangini. I wouldn't say that Rex did a great job at all. You obviously love Rex and are blinded by the realities of the situation, so we won't agree.
Not to get nitpicky with your post, but have you taken a look at Amaro? Not only does he play like a very capable starting tight end, but his stats say that he ranks among the best in rookie TE history. If we extrapolate his current stats to get to 16 games, look at this comparison: Jace Amaro: 570 yds, 2 TDs, 64 rec, 78 tgts, 82% catch pct, 8.9 yds/c Rob Gronkowski: 546 yds, 10 TDs, 42 rec, 59 tgts, 71% catch pct, 13.0 yds/c Jimmy Graham: 356 yds, 5 TDs, 31 rec, 44 tgts, 70% catch pct, 11.5 y/c Jason Witten: 347 yds, 1 TD, 35 rec, 54 tgts, 65% catch pct, 9.9 y/c Heath Miller: 459 yds, 6 TDs, 34 rec, 55 tgts, 62% catch pct, 11.8 y/c Antonio Gates: 389 yds, 2 TDs, 24 rec, 42 tgts, 57% catch pct, 16.2 y/c -- Watch Amaro closely in our next blowout loss (next week). He will get open quite a lot; though Vick for some reason ignored him last week even though he was open, I have very, very high hopes for this kid. AND: Amaro is putting up those numbers in less than 40% of the team's snaps (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts) - pretty incredible in an offense likes ours.
2-12 after their last 14 wins. "sustained success" Players love to play for Rex as long as they win...one game. After that game is won, who knows when the next win will come..
Let me give just one example from his tenure that, for me, sums up Rex Ryan - last year, the Jets go into the bye week still having a shot at the playoffs, but it was clear that every subsequent game was crucial. The first game after the break was the Bills at Buffalo. At that point, the Bills had lost a number of games in a row and it was obvious they were not a good football team. Do you remember what happened in that game? The Jets were destroyed IN ALL FACETS! The vaunted defense was non-existant, the special teams turned it over, and the offense was its usual disaster, and the Bills destroyed us, effectively ending our season right there. Players may want to "run through a wall" for Rex but they sure didnt want to prepare themselves properly with the season on the line. That game is a microcosim of the problems with Rex Ryan and why he has to go.
1) Rex is 15-28 in his last 43 games and 22-33 in his last 55 games. Furthermore, twelve of those 33 losses were by 20 points or more (5 of those 12 blowout losses were to eventual non-playoff teams). An additional 10 of those 33 losses were by 10 points or more. In summation, the Jets are 22-33 in their last 55 games and 22 of the those 33 losses were by double digits. In a league of one score betting lines, that's just pathetic. 2) Rex is 2-12 in his last 14 games following a win. 2-12! (This is the embodiment of inconsistency . . . is it not?) 3) The Jets lead the league in turnovers since Rex became the head coach. 4) I could continue with embarrassing stats, but you get the point . . . The bottom line is that your argument ignores the obvious verity that Rex has been the head coach here for six years. This suddenly popular notion that Rex is an innocent bystander to a woefully assembled roster, entirely free from his influence, is complete and utter bullshit. The single biggest weakness of the Jets in Rex's first year here? The passing offense. The single biggest weakness five drafts later? Still the passing offense. In point of fact, we used every single one of our first round draft picks on a defensive player in every single one of those drafts. (All 5 drafts we have had since we drafted Sanchez in 2009). I'm sure Rex had nothing to do with that, right? Rex has had two general managers and three offensive coordinators to scapegoat. We've been anywhere from a mediocre to outright bad football team for 3 going on 4 seasons now. Rex certainly isn't the only problem, but it is beyond the bounds of delusion to pretend that he isn't a problem.
well said... Amaro has exceeded expectations in another wise dismal year. Standing open all alone time after time with no one that can throw him the ball.
Thanks for the info. I'm pleased to see he's doing well. I wasn't a fan of his in college and didn't want the Jets to take him, but since he's here, I'd like to see him succeed. It's encouraging that another of Idzik's draft picks is contributing.
