Bad organization starting with Woody

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  1. jesse33

    jesse33 Member

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    this orginazation is run poorly starting with the owner

    Woody allowed that abortion of a stadium to be built

    Signed a gm with no experience judging talent

    Totally alienated his core fans

    His interview last week was a joke, I gave always kept a reserve my whole life he is a billionaire

    If you have ever called the jets you will know the entire organization is run poorly

    Woody is in the lucky sperm club and it shows on his leadership, his hires, the abortion of a stadium, the management of the team, just a loser orginazation

    Why couldn't we get an owner who actually earned his wealth

    How can we fire the owner?
     
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    I do not believe the owner can be fired,but maybe the players and fans will boycott (Will never happen)
     
  3. bandwagon

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    Agree with just about everything. But is it true the GM has no experience judging talent?
     
  4. JetDynasty

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    We just have to hope that he's a huge racist and all his racist tirades leak somehow either on audio or video. He would receive so much backlash he would be forced to sell the team! Give him that Donald sterling punishment!
     
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  5. jesse33

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    Can someone please get woody drunk and get him screwing a hooker on tape, he def looks like a guy who could do that and make him tell out some racists remarks as he screwed her
     
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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    John Idzik began his NFL career as a Pro Personnel Assistant in Tampa Bay in 1993, Director of Football Administration in 1996 and Assistant GM in 1999. The Bucs won the Super Bowl in 2002. 2004 to 2007 he was Senior Director of Football Operations for Arizona before leaving for Seattle at the end of 2007. Arizona went to their only Super Bowl in 2008.

    In Seattle he was VP of Football Administration from 2008 to 2012, leaving for the Jets at the end of the 2012 season. The Seahawks won the Super Bowl in 2013.

    That's 3 teams he's been employed by, all of them mediocre at best when he arrived and all went to the Super Bowl in close proximity to his employment with them. He either has something that helps lift a team to new heights or he's the luckiest man alive. Given that he wound up on the Jets I'm thinking it has to be the former.
     
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  7. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    I am almost 100% positive it is the latter.

    Seeing what he's done here, there is no fuckin way he helped build those teams, especially Seattle.
     
  8. jesse33

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    There are many people helping making decisions it comes down to the gm who makes the final call, so on two years as decisuon maker he is a joke I think he was just a lucky guy with those jobs, he was 4th or 5th choice as gm so that should tell you something
     
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  9. Br4d

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    Actually the Jets moves so far look a lot like the moves that Seattle made from 2008 to 2010. It's not a perfect comparison but the emphasis on short term vet FA contracts and drafting is pretty similar.

    People upset about the Milliner pick should remember that Seattle's big move in 2009 was Aaron Curry on the 4. Boom, bust, out. They took a bunch of trench players early on and then a safety and WR in 2010. They didn't trade up for a QB, taking the guy who fell to them instead in Russell Wilson. They got Marshawn Lynch to solidify the running game. They took their CB's late in the draft and then developed them.

    Same thing in Tampa Bay btw. Not enough talent there at the start and the Bucs just started accumulating players on defense until they hit a critical mass.

    The primary problem that Idzik has with the Jets right now, one that he shares with Rex, is that there just wasn't that much talent here when he arrived. That's similar to all the other gigs he's been at in his career. The talent turned around at all of them before he was done.

    It's a nasty reality but we're still in the blowback from 2008 to 2011 at this point. When you have a substantial group of vets all drop out on you at once it creates an enormous drag on everything else. Then you get frisky and trade up for Stephen Hill in 2012 and the bottom drops out.
     
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    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Draft picks man. Draft picks.

    In those years, Seattle drafted Earl Thomas, Golden Tate, Kam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, Byron Maxwell, etc.
     
  11. jesse33

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    How can you defend Idzik

    Two of his biggest free agents Patterson and Goodwin were two of the worst signings ever

    If we are so talentless than some of these later draft picks would actually play, the fact is they have stunk and many have been cut
     
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    They have a lack of talent because of him... that's not an excuse FOR him.
     
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    Getting back to woody anyone have any ideas how to get him into a scandal so he has to sell the team?
     
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    John Idzik was a Contracts guy in Seattle. They changed his title to VPFA in Seattle to help boost his resume in hopes of landing a GM gig. The Jets were the only team desperate and gullible enough to fall for the fraudulent talent evaluator known as Idzik. Pete Carroll and John Schneider built the current Seahawks. Ask any Hawks fan and they'll tell you the same.
     
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    Someone call Ray Donovan
     
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    Public shaming and denial of revenue. In other words, it's not enough to just criticize the Jets (like bags on your head at games, etc) ... the criticism has to be directed specifically at Woody and it needs to be angry, antagonistic and unkind. It won't work unless he's throughly embarrassed when he's around the rest of his blueblood friends and family. And the denial of revenue speaks for itself; he's only interested in owning the Jets to the extent it makes him money, as soon as a different investment would return more revenue, he'll sell.
     
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    You realize the Wilpons have been savaged in the press and by fans and NO ONE goes to that park and even with the multi-millions they lost to Maddoff, they still aren't selling.

    What makes you think in a revenue split league where team values are approaching multiple billions that a few antagonistic comments are going to shame him enough to sell.

    There are only 32 of these the greatest of toys. Whether he can make MORE money on another investment is irrelevant.

    It's an NFL franchise.

    Woody is never selling.

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  19. Unhappyjetsfan

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    I'm not saying it's a guarantee to get him to sell. I'm saying it's the only weapon the fan has at his disposal to possibly get him to sell (or make personnel changes - which is the other side of the issue). 95% of NFL owners will sit there and do absolutely nothing unless they become embarrassed; and making them embarrassed is a lot harder than it would seem (because they light cigars with $100 bills) - they only become embarrassed when their friends and families start mentioning how bad the team is.
     
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    I assume you mean Goodson? Youre overreacting though. Signing marginal talent to short term deals worth not that much money are mot terrible signings.

    Locking up a player like Holmes for a ton of money and extendng Sanchez, THOSE are the bad team crippling moves and part of the reason we're in the mess we are in.
     
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