This is not about Sanchez but about Geno. He played pretty well against a weak Raiders team and made a couple of mistakes including a missed throw that could have cost the Jets the game. You have to be blind to not see the improvement Geno is growing but far from the top half of the NFL. I am still concerned with Jets ability to score TDs throughout preseason and now the first game we are not finishing drives. To make a playoff run that will need to change. With our running game and hopefully great D. (We will know a lot more this week with a vet Qb) the Jets can make a strong playoff run. I love the conservative play calling with the skill set of this offense and team. Long drives keep the defense fresh get after the QB. We missed the plays we needed to make Sunday. Against the Raiders you get away with it other teams not so much.
I see a lot of people talking about Geno's short throws or throws behind the line of scrimmage like that's a bad thing... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that all part of the west coast offense? Short passes to set up the deep ball? Whatever the case may be, I'm extremely happy with Geno's throwing performance. He was placing balls where they needed to be minus that one that sailed over Cumberland's head and a few that Decker ended up grabbing anyway (fixable problem). And I'm sorry but an NFL receiver makes that TD grab that Salas missed. I'm not going to say the INT was 100% Woodson making a great play, but I would say that 9 out of 10 safeties end up batting that ball down. I don't blame Geno for thinking he can get it into a tight window, but there also had to be a better option somewhere else. I could be wrong (I was at the game so I didn't have many replays) but he could have even taken off for a few yards. He seemed locked in on Decker with blinders on and you know what, I'll take that happening once a game as opposed to 5 or 6 like last year. The running is going to be an issue, but that's probably also the result of a second year QB who a.) doesn't "get it" yet and b.) is starting to gain confidence at a rapid rate. I'm sure playing as well as he was, getting wherever he wanted to on the field, completing passes, he felt invincible. That's got to stop, and I have no doubt that it will. The positive to that though is that he used his feet 8 times. I would say at least 50% of those runs would have been poorly thrown passes into coverage a year ago. Not only did he use his feet, he looked good doing it. Sometimes a little perspective is needed: he's playing his 17th NFL game. He was drafted in the 2nd round of the draft. He's playing in an offense extremely dissimilar to the one he played in for four years in college. If you're walking into every Sunday expecting Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, you're going to be disappointed. I preach this every time the dumb CB argument comes up and why didn't we pay this guy or that guy: rebuilding takes time. You don't get overnight results. Players take time to develop and teams take time to build. I know this is a Geno thread, but I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Idzik for understanding all of this. We are on the right path fellas, finally.
The only play that really makes me shake my head is the sack. Basic game awareness. Int's happen the fumble was tough but it was in the course of the play and somewhat understandable. But that sack just can not happen. I hope marty drilled that point home
That run up the middle was fine. It was 3rd and 10 and he was running for the 1st down. If he slides there, the Jets punt. I think Rex said in his post game presser he's ok with Geno running (not sliding) for 1st downs (on 3rd or 4th downs) or TDs, but the rest of the runs need to be slides. I guess if it's 3rd and 1 and he's 5 yards down field he can slide there too. If there's something big on the line like a critical 1st down or a score I don't mind him going head first and getting it. I still love the Sanchez play where he lowered his shoulder and bulldozed it in for 7. Things like that are back breakers for the other team and really lift our teams emotions.
When Johnny the Kid made the post we all laughed a bit but when you look at the Giants and realize how fast a team can go from great to nothing, maybe we should raise our expectations THIS YEAR. It wouldn't suck to grab and early SB ring while on the rise (now), two more while on top and a 4th while on the decline with some of our stars falling off the team (Mangold, Brick, Harris, etc). Our new goal is 4 in a row.
Need to point out that Geno was VERY GOOD today...He threw a nice TD pass to Kerley that got fucked over by the refs, and he had a nice deep ball to Decker that was mistimed barely. We should have won tonight and Geno had the INT but the ball floated after being hit. I can live with that...He was a standout on offense considering our RBs did shit...
Geno, like usual, looked amazing 50% of the plays and looked bad on the other 50%. Which is an improvement from last year when he looked good on 25% of plays and bad on 75%. He did look good on 3rd downs. He really needs to get the ball down though. Every pass he misses is too high, I can't even remember the last time he underthrew a receiver. But the people calling for Vick to go out in the 4th quarter were ridiculous.
Geno was just a bit off on some key plays. Overall, I think he didn't get much of a clean pocket that often and the INT he was drilled as he was throwing it, I can't really blame him for that. He had some bad throws on 3rd down later in the game and some high throws to RBs that hurt them. The Decker miss sticks out since it was a clean TD and would have been a huge play. I think overall he played good, but it doesn't really lead me to believe anything about his future. He definitely looks better than last year but it wasn't good enough to win the game.
He got worse as the game went on though not better. I don't know what to make of his performance. It was excellent in the first half but his awareness and situational football is questionable and it hasn't gotten better since last yr.
You his awareness was bad this game? I thought it was decent late in the game. He understood not to take sacks and what not on 4th down and at least put the ball in areas for the WR make plays, instead of losing the game on a sack or out of bounds pass. He didn't take us out of FG range. The thing that was missing was in the 2nd half he was throwing slightly behind on receivers allowing the defender to get a hand on it. I think that really isn't awareness, just some poor passes.
I noticed once Decker got off the field that he started having incompletions...I can't go hard on him for today. He had a really good completion rate earlier too..We just shit the bed in the second half
But sometimes you have to take sacks - that INT, Winters did a bad job but you have to take that sack on 1st and 10 you can't go for the juggler each and every-time. You have to throw the football away sometimes and live for another down and I see Geno trying to make a play at the last second. The forward pass ruling next time that can be a strip sack. Geno that 2nd half just didn't feel comfortable at all and it showed.
I don't think you can expect Geno to take a sack there. That's ridiculous to expect from a QB. When he started his throwing motion, nobody was in his face, but Winter got beat and Geno got hit. I might have to rewatch it, but taking a sack there would have required Geno to basically go down really quickly and without anyone in his face. The forward ruling was a strip sack because Geno tried to throw it away. He felt the pressure and got away. I agree Geno wasn't comfortable but I don't think that shows anything about his situation awareness in the second half, I just thought he was missing on a few throws.
Geno is improving - I don't think he was the reason we lost today - that first half, he was amazing ... I haven't seen a play-maker like that in a QB in a while - I wish he was able to sustain that level of play the entire game - losing Decker was big for him. Surprised we couldn't get the TEs more involved in the offense. We are still another reliable weapon away.
Rodgers had 1 or 2 sacks today he took because nothing was there. Some he took because it was the best thing to do at that current moment. It will always be better than an INT. He had at least 3 seconds in the pocket. You cannot look to throw that ball away with a defender breathing down your neck - even so that's on 2nd down.
Rodgers also took a sack after standing behind the OL for 10 seconds instead of throwing it out of bounds. I just don't think Geno made the wrong throw to Sudfield. You cannot expect him to fold up before the pressure is there, then you have a scared QB. He was going to make a play and Winters just got beat and the defender hit Geno as he was throwing. It happens. I don't think it is the situation you are describing it to be. Winters should have been able to to hold his guy off long enough for the throw, Geno didn't have a lot of time there.
What hurt Geno at the end was the running game doing jack squat. I don't think there was a run longer than five yards. His interception was on the offensive line. He had an open receiver and took a shot just as he released. Line gives him a split second longer and that's a touchdown.
Give me the weapons that Colin Kaepernick has and see how Geno does. Russell Wilson benefits from a beast defense and a solid offense...We lack multiple playmakers...We need to work with what we have with a young QB
Why even play Geno? The coaches have no faith in him as evident by 3 straight runs late in the game, they call timeouts when the clock is ticking, they use the Vick wildcat after he makes good plays. Why did we even pick him in the 2nd round last year? Just start Vick if this is how you treat Geno and view him. Its a fucking joke.
