Very Happy w/ Geno's Performance

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  1. ajax

    ajax Well-Known Member

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    The int was a fantastic defensive play. Today's elite QBs would have the ball meeting Decker once he turned around but it's unfair to hold Geno to that level (especially at this stage of his career). During Geno's pass, there was a small margin for error and a HOF CB pulled off a fantastic play to punish him there. As everyone else has stated, Geno needs to slide more. If he went the whole game taking those first quarter hits, I'm doubtful he would be playing this Sunday; those were the type of hits you'd expect your FB to take on.

    Nice job dancing around defenders in the backfield but I'd like to seem him work on his pre-snap awareness a little bit more. Prior to the 20-yard sack, Geno needs to make a mental note that he's in FG range. Even if he thinks it's possible to maneuver around the free defender, he should have prepared himself pre-snap to simply fall/slide down and minimize the loss if he's risking a sack. That FG would've put the Jets up by more than a TD in 4th quarter.

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    The play calling was a little bit silly and I can see now what some of the Eagles fans were complaining about. MM needs to drill a different risk/reward mentality into Geno when he's bordering FG range but he also needs to make some adjustments himself as OC. We don't need the offense to carry the defense. On Geno's long sack, why was that play even called? MM is on the sidelines and should be more rational than his young QB. The defense was controlling that game and three more points could very well have iced it. You can't turn down the sure chance to grab a 7+ point lead with how much that Raider offense was struggling. Also, the distance was definitely reachable with a run. We're not talking about 4th and long there.

    Those red zone plays were also annoying. There are three good RBs and a big tall WR. Why the heck are Geno & Vick both on the field? Even if the Jets don't score, there's no need for Geno to be taking big hits there unless OL totally blows it.
     
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    No more designed runs for Geno in my opinion. Let him run when he absolutely has to. Let him make the read-option decision.
     
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    I hear a lot about the WCO but I haven't really seen the Jets run it much over the last two seasons. MM's WCO was always a bit of a hybrid in Philly with the deep balls over represented and here it seems more like a Read-Option WCO than anything else. In both places the offense grounded and pounded more than a typical WCO.
     
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    I've said that Geno hushed a lot of critics yesterday.

    He looked sharp and focused.
    He was "into" the game.

    I'd like to think that after his whirlwind rookie year, he realized that he can handle the position.

    He packed on 15 lbs. and it looks like he's taking his leadership role somewhat seriously.

    What's not to like?

    A few easily correctable mental mistakes?
    Big deal.

    He's got a live arm and the willingness (and ability) to scamper for yardage.

    He kept up a quick pace on offense. We had 65 offensive snaps to their 49. More than doubled their yards from scrimmage and almost doubled their yards per play.

    That's how you win at football.

    The penalties and turnovers cost us a blowout. Geno & Co. didn't let it affect the outcome.

    And they covered.

    What's not to like?
     
  5. LongIslandBlitz

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    yea and I recall Soxx calling for him to be benched after his first turnover.Those are great numbers,what a douche head
     
  6. legler82

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    The concern I have with that play is that it was very similar to the majority of his INTs last year. Right read; late throw. In fact, each one of his mistakes were similar to those last year. Poor footwork leading to unnecessarily deep drops and careless with the ball when running and/or in traffic.
     
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  7. Royal Tee

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    Very Happy? NO
    He managed the game but almost lost it on his own.

    INT - amazing play by Woodson but again Geno seemed .5 sec late.
    Fumbles in the RZ - There were 2! That's Unacceptable. PERIOD whether 1 was a fumble or not.
    4th Quarter Sack - Trying to run away and losing 19 yards knocking us out of field goal range in what would have made it a 2 possession game...again UNACCEPTABLE.

    He tries to do too much at times and is reluctant to slide or throw it away. His Pride is going to cost us if he doesn't put that shit away!


    Happy? Yes, with his management. He seemed poised and in control of the Offense. That's a good sign and a sign of good QB and OC coaching (Finally). :rolleyes:
     
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    His completion percentage was the highest in the NFL this weekend
     
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    82%! That is insane. I will overlook the fumbles, sack, and goofy calls for that one stat alone. 82%! The kid's on an upward curve.
     
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    You're going to ignore a pick on our side of the field and fumble in the redzone because of a completion% ?
     
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    "Fumble"

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    Problem is that angle makes it tough to see if the ball was coming loose while the knee was coming down, it was a tough call but still what was he thinking going head first into 2 defenders, I appreciate the effort but damn you need to pick your battles sometimes.
     
  13. Jetaho

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    Yup. I'm looking at the big picture, and I'm not looking to tear down Geno with every single mistake he makes. I want improvement and I saw a lot of it Sunday.
     
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    FTR I thought he played excellent on Sunday, but you don't just overlook 2 critical turnovers, hes night and day better than last season though.
     
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    I agree that it was a stupid decision, but I think that angle gives you enough of an angle to know that the defender's shoulder could only just be making contact with the ball at the moment his knee his the ground, and as the two-day continues (and Carey agreed after he puked that sock out of his mouth) that the ball looked tight into the elbow until the very end of defender contact.

    I've stayed that it was probably too close to call previously, but the more I look at it, the more I think that replay upholding call was bullshit. I'll get the other angle and see if I can sync them up.
     
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    Excellent post!!!
     
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    I think an argument can be made that the ball was coming loose as soon as the defender made contact with the ball, but it was definitely close as fuck the more I look at that gif, tough call though to make.
     
  18. jcass10

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    In general, he was very good. I dont recall seeing a Jets QB throw for over 80%. I think Sanchez got to 70 once or twice, but never 80.

    Yea there were a couple mistakes, but 2 individual plays over the course of the game I can deal with. For one, he may have been down during the fumble. If he were ruled down initially, it certainly wouldnt be overturned, so it definitely wasnt obvious one way or another. Interception was a great play by a great player. Geno was a tad bit late, but if that just gets batted down, than Geno's game looks exponentially better. Not to mention, I believe there were a couple throwaways as well. And I know Oakland isnt great, but there is some talent on that defense, but I need to see them play against another team first.

    And Salas dropped a catchable TD pass. Imagine if Salas didnt drop that, and the fumble was ruled down by contact and we scored there? That would have been 2 TD's to 1 pick and an 82% game. I would take that every single day.

    Definitely encouraged week 1 into Geno's second season.
     
  19. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Also need to mention, after that second scramble where he didn't slide (wicked hit by Woodson), he slid on every scramble he made. Somebody tore him a new asshole on the sideline.
     
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    I can't put that whole thing on Salas. If he was an elite fingertip catcher, I'd wonder, but that ball was floated pretty darn high and would probably be tough for many receivers to catch, much less a depth receiver.

    Yet I think if you give that guy 2 out of 3 attempts, Salas catches the other two.
     

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