Sure they are overpaid...but for a reason. Look at the situation we're in. 21 Million cap space and nothing at CB. 10 million for Vontae...then they still have 11 Million in cap. Was that worth it? It would have been in my opinion.
What team that just recently drafted a top CB would then also pick up 2 top CB's in FA and then draft another CB? That makes no sense. As pointed out, chances are if they picked up one of the top FA CB's then they would not have drafted McDougle and that's if they only picked up 1 top FA CB not 2 as you suggest.
In hindsight I guess you could say that. But is everyone that is saying it today say it yesterday as well? I cant all of the sudden change an opinion on our GM because 2 injuries happened. I wasnt happy about the CB situation after free agency but handing out bad contracts was how this team got in trouble last time. Its clear to me that Idzik has a vision. We'll see if it pays off.
Don't get me wrong. I like Idzik as the GM. He's done everything else well. He just messed up in an area where the Jets badly needed to improve. The injuries weren't his fault...that's not what I'm saying. He couldn't have possibly predicted the injuries. It would be unfair to blame Idzik for that. I do believe in his "competition mantra" approach and future vision...I just think he sometimes relies on competition too much. I don't want him to settle for average at every position in the future.
Some of us have been concerned about Idzik's moves or lack there of for a while now. Please enlighten me cause I can't for the life of me figure it out.
Well as long as your opinions on Idzik didnt change today then thats cool with me. Like I said I wasnt happy with the CB situation even before today either. But for one offseason and a hell of a lot of holes I think he's made great moves both in free agency and the draft. Cant fix em all in one offseason though. I dont expect this guy to be completely satisfied after 1 active offseason.
CB crisis? McDougle was low on the depth chart and Milliner should be back week 1. It sucks for McDougle because this will slow down his development, but Milliner has shown he can hold the #1 spot down just fine. Maybe bring in a depth guy for vet min, but this is hardly the end of the world.
He couldn't have re-signed Revis- Woody Johnson would not have allowed it. Anger at not having Revis should be directed at Woody, not Idzik. What I would've done would be: take Revis's Tampa Bay contract off the waiver wire, and then thank TB for the free draft pick. Meanwhile, other CB salaries are catching up to that $16m/year figure, so it's no longer the unreasonable behemoth that it seemed to be back when top pay was around $11m, and when we didn't know if the salary cap would increase. Plus, you don't have to negotiate with Revis again, since he's locked into that contract and if he holds out he'll get deluged with heavy fines under the new CBA. That would've been the "home run" scenario- but it was never an option given that the owner was fed up with him. The silver lining of not having him is that we don't have to worry about his money-centric attitude rubbing off on other players. I could imagine Richardson adopting a similar attitude if he was hanging out with Revis a lot. The other thing is that it gives us a chance to get younger at the position and hopefully find our Richard Sherman (a longshot, but fans have to hope for it.) We have a strong enough front seven that we can make do with the corners we have / are likely to get, if we don't pretend they're all press corners. Gotta play more zone defense and trust the guys up front to get after the QB mostly on their own, with Richardson and Wilkerson frequently soaking up double coverage and generating opportunities for our linebackers. Walls is solid, and there's also the probability that we'll get some decent guys who don't make other teams' final rosters. If Milliner is +90% in September and Rex plays more zone coverage, we'll be just fine on defense. I'm assuming that Rex will learn not to leave guys like Patterson out on an island, so I'm not at all in panic mode.
I agree. there's absolutely no reason to "panic" yet. I totally think Idzik messed up at CB in the offseason. But I still think there's a chance of it working out well. Like I said in another thread, don't panic until you see Patterson healthy and what Walls can do in these upcoming preseason games.
Idzik clearly is an idiot. First, he drafts Eugene with a 2nd round pick when no GM would go near the bum. Then he wastes several picks this past draft and doesn't draft a QB to present real competition to Eugene. Neither does he sign or draft a top CB which was clearly one of our deepest needs. Nor does he draft a top flight WR which was another top need. These 2 past drafts have been abdominal with the exception of Richardson, Milliner and the trade for Ivory. Denard should have been the Jets #1 pick. We have a decent safety in Allen who is young and growing. We needed another young corner LIKE Milliner to grow with the team. Period. QB should have been #2 pick to challenge Smith. Clearly, Smith was not ready to play last year, or as we shall see this year, he just plain sucks and is a bust. Regardless, there were to many quality QB's available in this past draft not to grab one. Which makes last year's pick of Smith idiotic. Garoppolo was there for the taking with our 2nd round pick. Real competition. With 10 picks left in the draft, Idzik could have easily moved up in the 2nd round by giving up lets say a #4 and grabbing a top wr prospect like Adams, Robinson, Latimer or Landry. Another big mistake to draft Amaro who was not needed . Cumberland had a fine year, is young and is coming into his own. Sudfeld is tuning heads in camp. In round 3 Gabe Jackson would have been a nice pick. Again, competition. Real competition. Round 4 was the Saunders, Evans and Dozier picks. Keep Saunders and Dozier, bite my tongue; both look like a smart picks. Speed kills. Dozier getting rave reviews. The last few rounds are always pretty much a grab bag. But with all those damn picks still left, Idzik could have wheeled and dealed to get into higher spots and grabbed higher profile players to grab a safety, blocking TE. OLB etc. Denard, Garrapolo, Adams, Jackson, Sanders, Dozier versus Pryor, Amaro, McDougle, Saunders, Evans, Dozier
He was a 1st round pick, all-American, won the Jim Thorpe award and was considered by many to be the best man cover cb in the nation. Yes, he was a blue chip prospect even if he was the 3rd cb taken. C'mon behave.
D Denard would have been the SMART pick. He was taken 6 picks after the Pryor pick, hardly a fall from grace. The Pryor pick was a luxury seeing we had Allen who showed promise last year.
I'm not kicking or criticizing mcdougle. I'm criticizing Idzik. Mcdougle was never a dominant player and was coming off serious surgery. My point remains that has we picked Denard we'd get the best pure cover corner in the draft who happened to be HEALTHY. As for Matthews, see my comments on Amaro where I say it's too early to judge a rook, despite his rough start. Matthews would have still made perfect sense as a pick. But by picking Pryor we were forced to look for a far inferior cb in later rounds. And we're going to pay for it.
LMAO. So much fail in a single post. Geno was a steal in the 2nd round and wow Garrapolo! He was so awesome in that first preseason game where Pats got blown out. Idzik brought in Michael Vick, why would he also draft another QB? Hindsight is always 20/20... Except when you post it. But of course you know way more about being a GM in the NFL than Idzik does. But you're at home being a coach GM.
You can make an argument Geno Smith was one of the best picks in Jets recent history. They got him in the 2nd round as their potential future QB. Even if it doesn't work out with Geno, it was WELL worth the gamble to see if he could be the guy. You don't get an opportunity to draft a QB like Geno in the 2nd round every year. Days before the draft, people were talking about trading up to #1 spot for him. I would have liked Dennard too, but I was also happy with Pryor. Garappolo would have been a dumb choice. I like garappolo but the Jets have Michael Vick on the roster...and he is absolutely the perfect guy to push Geno. It's also alot easier to make statements about picks with a little training camp foresight.
We could use a 2 year stop gap to start at CB. Need to be competitive now, and develop that future replacement. McDougle can't be depended on to start next year now. i don't think they should draft a corner round 1 with all the offensive needs (unless really good one falls to them). So wait till next years FA, or correct this problem now with a trade? i say the latter, and Joseph would be my target to stabilize this D for the next 2 years.
