2014 NBA Off-Season Thread

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  1. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Cavs and Timberwolves still talking trade for Kevin Love. Wiggins and Bennett both in discussion to send over.
     
  2. JetLifeLo

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    Unless we plan on starting J.Lamb next year it will be more of the same. Im still curious for an update on reggie jackson too
     
  3. soxxx

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    I dont think any of us hate the Thunder, we just speak the truth when it comes to Scott Brooks. Hell, many Thunder fans dont like Scott Brooks. He in all likelyhood is coaching for his job next season, and would have likely been fired last season had they lost to the Clippers or Grizzlies. Lets not forget, the game 5 ref call, and Zbo getting suspended. Im not playing "what-if's" but the Thunder did catch some breaks in the first 2 rounds (although I wont deny the Spurs caught one when Ibaka hurt himself, although looking back I think the Spurs would have won the series anyway because they proved to be the better team over game 5 and 6.

    The Thunder have 2 top 10 players, no excuses not to win imo.
     
  4. JetLifeLo

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    Im over brooks ! Used to love him as our coach.. now im wondering wth George Karl is up to with his tiny brown teeth
     
  5. soxxx

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    Scott Brooks had argueably the most "talented" team in the west, yet he was outcoached in all 3 series imo. They lost to the Spurs, the refs screwed up game 5 against the Clippers, and then the Grizzlies took em to 7(and had Zbo suspended)
     
  6. Falco21

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    I don't know about that man.

    The most talented team in the West? No way. The Clippers are more talented, as are the Spurs.
     
  7. JetLifeLo

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    I see similarities in how Sam Presti (Thunder GM) and John Idzik runs things..

    Draft & Development over splurging in Free Agency.
     
  8. JetLifeLo

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    Idk about the most talented team bro.. but i can say we have the two best players in the western conference, and they're just getting started!
     
  9. soxxx

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    I beg to differ, I dont think there is another coach out there other than Popovich who could have guided the Spurs to a championship. You throw any other coach out there, guys like Duncan, Parker, Ginobli would all be playing 30+ minutes. Well Pops system kept em all healthy, AND they won the most games. That home court helped a lot, and the health was a must to.

    Popovich has turned guys like Diaw and Green who nobody wanted into solid role players. I doubt Brooks or anyone for that matter could have won with the Spurs roster.
     
  10. Falco21

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    Whether it was Pop or not, the Spurs and Clippers were arguably more talented than OKC.

    You can say it was coaching, but other than Durant and Westbrook, they didn't get much production from anyone else. Yes, Ibaka was huge for them, but you're comparing them to the likes of Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre Jordan. Chris Paul is the best point guard in the game, Blake Griffin was arguably in the MVP race this past season, and Jordan was averaging 14 rebounds a game with 4+ blocks.

    Then you compare them to legends like Tony Parker, Tim Duncan, and Manu Ginoboli. The Spurs roster was one of the most talented rosters in NBA history last year. Depth was absolutely amazing.

    There is no way OKC was the most talented team in the West. They have two of the top players in the NBA, but their overall team is not more talented than LA and SA.
     
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    IDK about that, the Spurs play just pure basketball and get the most out of everyone. I dont think they were as talented, they just played MUCH much smarter. Sure Parker, Duncan, Ginobli are all there, but these were the same guys who were getting knocked out in the first round to Dallas and Memphis, swept by the Suns, backdoor swept by the Thunder, etc. So what changed? was Danny Green and Boris Diaw the saviors? the same guys nobody wanted.

    You gotta give credit to Popovich, from an X and O standpoint he took to a whole another level. He didnt need the most talented guys, he didnt need the MVP, he just needed guys who were going to play smart and thats why he was able to win the most games despite not a single starter playing more than 30 minutes. Do you think Brooks could pull that off? or any coach for that matter? heck no.
     
  12. BigSnacks54

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    Jeremey Lamb won't make a difference , he's not very good. If he was a solid NBA player, Derek Fisher wouldn't have played forty minutes in game 6 of the WCF. It will be more of the same for the Tnunder, but I don't see them getting by the Clippers again.
     
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    Neither do I. It should be Spurs-Cavaliers in the finals again.
     
  14. NYJalltheway

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    I'm not talking about any 1 person in particular, it just seems like there is a ton of OKC hate going on, and doubt about them ever winning a championship. Me personally, I don't think the coach is important as most others. Elite talent can win championships no matter who is coaching. It just may not be as often as having a top guy.
     
  15. JetLifeLo

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    Jeremy Lamb is good. He was having a very good season and the combo of Reggie Jackson and Lamb was killing other teams off the bench, ESPECIALLY the spurs. Scott Brooks is why Lamb didnt play. who the hell would put Fisher in that long in a win or go home situation but Scott Brooks? Had me pulling my hair out. The ibaka injury had him over thinking he never went back to the origial game plan we ran all year. He took sef out of the entire line up completely instead of just limiting & splitting his minutes with Lamb, instead he put lamb in when we were down 20+ points already. He took Collison out of the line up completely, in game 6 he had fisher guarding power friggin forwards in the post.. i dont even wanna type about this shit anymore im getting "re-pissed"
     
  16. NYJalltheway

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    Are you talking about the game when KD was about to hit the GW free throw, but the ref threw a huge public bitch fit, put the game on hold, and then KD missed the shot?

    I remember that damn clearly.

    Funny how selective your memory is Soxxx, and lots of other guys too. Doc Rivers is clearly a better coach, and their talent is just notch below ours, yet we still beat them. So why would that happen if Brooks is so bad, and coaching is so important?
     
  17. NYJalltheway

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    I didn't know the Cavs made the finals last year. Wow my memory must be bad.

    Also, fine point about Zbo, but I'm sure the result would have been the same. The game was in OKC, and OKC were favorites regardless.
     
  18. BigSnacks54

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    They played in the 07 finals, that's why he said again.
     
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  19. BigSnacks54

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    Well you kind of need a competent coach to win the title. No one is saying you need an elite coach to win, but you need an average one at least. As of July 18, 2014 Scott Brooks is not even an average coach IMO.
     
  20. soxxx

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    Well I think Chris Pauls overrated as hell, I think the Thunder have more talent than the Clippers. If I was to choose a roster to start tomorrow, id take the Thunder's over the Clippers'.
     

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