I'm sure there are, personally I don't want him on the roster as a player, but if he is a consultant like Tom Moore was a while back for Sanchez, I could live with that for a season.
Tom Moore spent a year as a consultant with the Jets in a year where the entire offense imploded. I'd rather have Reed as a temporary player that can mentor other players as he has done in the past, as opposed to a role in which he has never played, like Moore did with the Jets. Moore was a balance influence for Indy when Peyton was QB, he stepped in with the Jets as an outsider and likely did more harm than good since the Jets OC was a twit who couldn't deal with it. Reed has no experience as a coach in any position.
If I'm not mistaken, were they not a top 5 red zone offense the year he was there? I know that BS was a big problem, and that's why I don't want Reed to be part of the system period, too much conflict. We don't see the ravens trying to keep him around to mentor any of their new secondary players do we? Honestly I think they should just cut ties completely.
Yes, top 5 red zone, 12th overall rushing and 30th passing. I don't get why Bryan Schottenheimer the coach makes you not want Ed Reed the player. The Ravens have their own reasons not to bring back Reed, just like the Jets have their own reasons not to bring back players, Cotchery comes to mind, and so does Aaron Glenn. Sometimes players and teams need to find different solutions. It doesn't mean that the player offers nothing to another team.
I think Rex would LOVE to have Reede back. But I think Idzik would LOVE for Rex to shut up and get Pryor coached up and ready to start game 1.
Hopefully Ed Reed hung out with the Seattle defensive secondary, did a lot of HGH in the offseason, and comes back a huge juice monster with a bad temper.
Pretty sure it's known around the league that Ed Reed was and is one of the most talented assholes in the NFL. Jusk as John Harbaugh lol Not coach material IMO. BUT having said that i voted YES because Reed can help by leading by example on the field and let Rex take care of the coaching on D!
What is "coach material" and what makes you think he doesn't have any (or enough) of the stuff? I'm not trying to be a wise ass by any means. I'm just really curious about what makes you say that about him because from everything I've heard, he has a reputation for being an excellent teacher who consistently gave highly focused support, attention, help and instruction to his teammates in Baltimore while he continued to lead them by example by virtue of him being one of the smartest, most talented and hardest working players both on and off the field. Great players don't always make great teachers or coaches but thus far, I've only heard his present and former teammates talk about how much they loved him and how much he taught them and helped them to develop. What was it that you read, heard, perhaps believe or actually know about Reed that would suggest he'd be less than ideal in the role of coach or advisor?
I agree that he might bring something to the table, but it goes back to my original thought in regards to why other teams don't jump on the opportunity to have a HOF player come in and mentor their younger players? It's just a practice that is not done a lot in the NFL. In regards to not wanting him because of not wanting the OC, I feel that when BS was here MS had enough input from guys like, bill Callahan, and the QB coach, cavanaugh. To bring in Tom Moore probably undermined them and made them feel like they were incapable of doing their jobs, which they were truly incapable of anyway, and truly did not help MS much. I don't want the same thing to happen to the secondary, where there is dynamic established with the DB coach and players and possibly have that disrupted by Reed and end up having more of a negative impact than a positive one. Again is just my opinion, I want a clean slate across the board on how the jets do things as an organization.
I'd have to say this post is mostly wrong. Millions of dollars does not offset the need for teaching. Hell...if money equated to smarts then we are all "EF'ed!" I would take Ed Reed at the Vet minimum or very close to it. Ed should WANT to come back for one last shot at a title... The amount of experience and knowledge he can impart to the young guys can not be undervalued. Heck, just teaching them how to be a "pro" can not be simply tossed aside. Trust me...there is such a thing. I think Reed has one more year in his legs to be a backup and operate as an on field coach. JMHO
Ed Reed is done as a player, and playing him now would just be taking away valuable practice from better younger players. However, I would love to see him hired as a secondary coach. There was an article here about how he took Milliner under his wing the last few games of the season last year, and showed him tape, etc, and that's when Milliner really transformed, so having that kind of experience teaching Milliner, Pryor, McDougle, Dixon, etc would be invaluable.
I voted to bring him back if he doesn't take a roster spot. I doubt that he'd be willing to sign just for mini-camps and TC. If I could trust Rex to not start him, or have him taking snaps away from Pryor or maybe Allen, I'd even let him take a roster spot. I don't think he will help the Jets significantly on the field, but I do think he could help all the young DBs a great deal as a mentor and additional coach. If he has interest, I'd love to see Reed hired as a Special Assistant Coach to help Thurmond work with all the young DBs.
I'm not sure a supremely gifted athlete like Ed Reede would make the best coach. What's he going to tell the young players? "Trust me. Just run around out there and great things will happen"! But take someone like Jim Leonhard. Here's a smart dude with no talent that had no choice but to work hard every day on every aspect of his game. He had to study and look hard for an edge against every WR/TE/RB he was facing. Someone like Leonhard might have some wisdom to pass along to the next gen.
When I read something like this, that it took a player (Reed) to transform Milliner by "showing him, tape, etc" it raises the question: why should this be the reason why a light went on in Milliner's head when there's a defensive backs coach (Tim McDonald), and why wouldn't he already be "watching tape" something every NFL unit does and what he assuredly also did at Alabama. As for Reed himself. I have no idea whether he's a "pick his brain" genius (like NCFan suggests) or if he was an instinctual genius as a player whose greatness he can't translate to those a shade below him in talent a la Ted Williams (as FootballGod214 suggested).
I really don't know either, but guys like Reede may not be great at helping out young guys who are struggling, since they never actually struggled.
