Are You SURE You REALLY Want Sanchez Off The Jets ??

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  1. JetDan

    JetDan Well-Known Member

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    I want to see Sanchez back, and I am not a Sanchez supporter. I am curious to see how he'll play in MMs offense. I think Sanchez will also be willing to take a pay cut, the man loves this team.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    The thread that will not die lol
     
  3. soxxx

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    Jets could actually get Sanchez dirt cheap, you have to look at it from his perspective. He could take a one year deal, have a great shot at starting, AND get to prove himself and make the $$$ next offseason.
     
  4. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    Everything is going to line up for Sanchez to resign. Higher salary cap, a lot of money they aren't going to spend all of it, so keeping him isn't a big deal. If they were barely under the cap he is cut out of necessity, but that isn't the case.
     
  5. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Why should they continue overpaying that stiff? Get real. He's awful. Most Jets fans will never accept him. He needs to go if for no other reason than to clear the team of any link to the circus of previous years.
     
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    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    What overpay? If they cut him it costs $4.8 million.
    If they can sign him up for 2014 for less than that it is actually cheaper to keep him. $1.6 million in signing bonus will count no matter what. If they can bring his salary for 2014 to $3.2 or under they actually save money. If they cut Sanchez and go out to pay Vick or Schaub - both of which will not come at vet minimum deals the potential backup QB will cost $4.8 million + that salary. So in reality cutting Sanchez will probably cost more than keeping him.

    It will also cause less drama...you bring in Vick or Schaub and you have many in the fan base screaming start that guy now! Smith has to deal with the weekly questions and headlines of when he will lose his job. You bring back Sanchez and it is just a repeat competition of last season with better weapons. Some will want Smith and some will want Sanchez, but it will be much less drama and distraction.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I totally disagree. There will be drama if Sanchez is still on the team. If Geno struggles or gets hurt, the fanbase will boo Sanchez the second he steps on the field. Whatever the cost, it's worth it to get rid of him.
     
  8. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    Fan base will boo anyone who comes on the field and doesn't deliver. If Sanchez wins the starting job and wins game 1 the crowd will go wild, the headlines will act like it is the second coming....same for Geno. Geno wins people love him - he fails people hate him.

    You think if Geno is playing lousy ball the fans will cry if he gets the hook?
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    No, but if you really think the fans would cheer Sanchez starting or playing, you haven't been paying attention.
     
  10. Footballgod214

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    Now that Mark is as good as gone, it seemed to me he played his best ball as a young gun slinger, running around the backfield avoiding blitzing lineman, holding the ball like a loaf of bread, then BAHM! 60yrd pass to Braylon. Or running like a wild child into linebackers at the goal line and not being denied. As time went on and his coaches started to 'fix' him, he started attending the Tom Brady school of FB, staying in the pocket, changing his footwork, changing how he holds the ball, and basically losing all the spontaneity that made him so special in the first.

    When Sanchez got here, he was very young, very talented, and didn't really care about much, which made him unpredictable and difficult to figure out, especially for DCs. Defenses rely on QBs doing one of three things when the balls hiked, but Sanchez had the ability to come up with 4,5, and 6 that no one was prepared for because QBs just shouldn't be playing that way.

    Once our coaching staff succeeded in castrating him and forcing him to play corporate football, he lost interest.

    This is too bad. I really hoped we had a young Brett Favre when Sanchez came on for us and it looked for a while like that's exactly what we had.
     
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    I think the fans will cheer whatever player wins the QB battle in preseason. They will keep cheering that person as long as they win. Fans aren't going to boo for the joy of booing for no reason.
     
  12. NCJetsfan

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    I disagree. I think you grossly underestimate the hatred and contempt that many, and quite likely most, Jets fans have for Sanchez.
     
  13. TonyMaC

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    Hes not coming back, they would simply have made the measures for doing so by now if he was.

    When are people gonna realize that this is a team moving on from Mark Sanchez and his unreliable play under center?

    When are people going to realize that theres no need for fans to see him in MM's system when the team has plenty on him in that regard?

    he's nothing worth keeping for the long term, won't want to be a stopgap, and he's NOT the teams franchise QB. thats OVER.
     
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    The 4.8 is lost regardless, it's prorated off of his last contract. If the Jets cut him the prorated accelerates to this year, if they sign him to a new deal the prorated accelerates to this year. The 4.8 is money that's already in Sanchez's pocket, it's just a cap numbers manipulation that spread that cost over several years for cap purposes but the money is already in Sanchez's pocket. that 4.8 is dead money regardless of if the Jets cut Sanchez and sign someone new or resign Sanchez (although if the resigning of Sanchez were a multi year deal the prorate could be spread out again, but do you really want to give a multi year contract? Sanchez won't sign a multi year that's cheap).
     
  15. TNJet

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    Sigh...to believe that some on here still want Sanchez is just sad. It's like watching Charlie Brown trying to kick the football Lucy keeps yanking away when Mark steps in behind center. He is done.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    to find very sad just find your nearest mirror.
     
  17. fozzi58

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    You are out of your mind. This fan base boos Namath; they would boo Manning & Brady if they were our #1 & #2 QBs.

    I was appalled at how the stadium erupted in cheers when Pennington got injured - I think it was 2005 - then again in 2007 when Kellen Clemens came in. It was disgusting. And then Mark has a couple shitty games and then you boo him on his entrance to the feild? He is your QB - good bad & ugly. Deal with it. Support the team.
     
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  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    it wasn't 2005, it was the NE game(1st game of the year) in 2007.
     
  19. legler82

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    We wouldn't want that so I guess he has to go.
     
  20. Br4d

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    The Jets are on their own 20 with a 3rd and 10. The opponent sends 5 rushers and drops 6 in coverage. There's pressure on the play.

    A. Mark Sanchez throws an outlet pass to his RB in the left flat and completes it.

    B. Mark Sanchez throws an outlet pass to his RB in the left flat and goes incomplete.

    C. Mark Sanchez outlet pass to his RB in the left flat is tipped and intercepted for a pick-6.

    D. Mark Sanchez is sacked on the 14.

    I gotta tell you that I have seen a lot more from the B,C,D categories than from A.

    It's not about what Sanchez could be. It's about what he is, which is a mistake-prone QB with very little upside. It's not like he makes a lot of passes and moves the offense well but he's mistake-prone and gives back too much. He doesn't even make a lot of passes or move the offense well.

    He's just not a good QB. It's hard to say because I was one of his bigger fans when he was a rookie/second year guy and the Jets were winning somehow despite all the oopsies. It's the truth though. He's not a good QB.
     
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