Are You SURE You REALLY Want Sanchez Off The Jets ??

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  1. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    That's what moderators are for.

    Hey...I'd love for this place to loosen up a bit and let people really speak their mind...but that's not the way it is.

    Do I think it suffers because of that restrictive policy? Yes, I do unfortunately. I feel that as long as racial slurs and threats of violence are kept in check, we're all adults and can take care of ourselves. But I don't run the place and if I choose to be a member, I need to toe the line. That line may be different for different members, but hey...that's life.
     
  2. TNJet

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    Read your own words and then reflect.
     
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    cval Well-Known Member

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    That's right fire Rex Sanchez is horrible all because your boy Tebow did not get to play. Rex is to blame for Tebow sucking and ruining his career yet Elway traded him and he could not make the Patriots. Maybe you should hate them more.
     
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    Don't feed the trolls, Lets not turn in that direction.
     
  5. nyjunc

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    The ignore function is amazing now that you don't even see the fact that a person posted. It's what it should have been all along. Except where the person is quoted by others you just don't know he or she even exists.

    +1 for the new software.
     
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    The Sanchez argument will go around in circles until the situation is resolved one way or the other. He can move on. He can stay here and succeed. He can stay here and continue to fail. Any of those things will stop most of the conversation in its tracks.

    The one bright side of all of this is that even if Sanchez stays he has this season and that's it. He either proves out or he winds up out the door in a hurry. I think he's better off elsewhere, because he'll have a clean slate there and more of an opportunity to recover from errors, but he may see it otherwise.

    It's going to be hard for him to wind up actually starting anywhere other than the Jets. There are teams that need a QB out there right now but they all need the QB for the same reason the Jets needed a QB last year: they're tired of watching the incumbent screw up. A new guy coming in the door doesn't get much of an opportunity if he screws up. Look at the TB QB last year when he arrived in Minny. He got a few starts and looked the same as he had in TB and right to the bench for him.
     
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  10. Br4d

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    That's delusional. Next year is 2014. 2011 doesn't matter at this point. And at the end of 2011 Mark Sanchez was beginning the process of writing his ticket out of town.

    I feel like a broken record some times on this. Mark Sanchez has been a really crappy NFL QB since November 2011 turned over into December. Has he had a few good games in there since then? Yes, but... It's just a few games and lighting up the Buffalo Bills circa 2012 was easy. Far more often Sanchez play has left the Jets with no chance to win the game. That's just reality.
     
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    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    In 2012 the jets had the worst offensive talent in football. OL was weak, running game was poor, receivers were all hurt, OC was horrible, Tebow was a massive mistake...you can't say 2012 was poor because of Sanchez...2012 was poor because of a core failure within the organization to improve talent on an aging team due to bad contract and bloated salaries.

    Throw some fresh offensive talent on the team in 2014 and let's see what two 20 something year old QBs can do.
     
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    They're not "two 20 something QB's".

    Geno Smith is going to be a 23 year old second year player, who showed some promise but also a lot of downside last season.

    Mark Sanchez is going to be a 27 year old 6th year player who has clearly established a low level of play at the NFL level.

    Lumping them together like they're the same thing is another way of trying to disguise what Sanchez really represents.
     
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    Geno is a QB that has enough holes in his game to be called the swiss cheese of NFL qbs. Sanchez has performance issues but has performed at a solid level and has won playoff games. I have no issue with both of them competing in a year with new weapons on offense to see if either can elevate their game
     
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    I want to see both compete w/ good NFL weapons. Both will be much better and it will make our team much better. Despite all the positive rumblings about the possibility of Mark coming back I still don't expect it to happen. I hope I am wrong.
     
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    How about seeing him perform with a decent OC.

    If the Jets retain Sanchez, he will win the job again, and with Geno, the team will be set for a decade at its most important position.
     
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    27 is young for a guy with 4 playoff wins, with shit coaching and no talent around him.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    he had one his first few years when he was a good QB. he has one now but didn't get to play for him.
     
  18. Ajitator

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    Including College, Sanchez has started ~20 more games then Geno, Basically what equates to 1 season of extra wear on the treads. I would still consider them both "young" QBs with room to grow.
     
  19. zombo

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    I'm not sure what to think about Sanchez. He wasn't given the chance to mature as a QB with good offensive talent. This year he would have a solid o-line and a good running game again. If things go right in the draft and free agency, there would also be some weapons to throw to. Geno didn't exactly lock the starting spot down last year. I say let Sanchez and Geno compete again like last year. If Sanchez wins the spot in training camp, then let him play himself in or out of the job in 2014. There's nothing that says they can't go back to Geno. Maybe Sanchez will have an Alex Smith/Rich Gannon moment and finally figure it out. Maybe he won't. I'd just hate to see all this time invested in a guy only for him to leave and work out somewhere else. Give him one more year since last year was a wash. If he can't win the starting job in camp, then move on from him after 2014, or even cut him outright before the season starts.
     
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    For full article go:
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/02...sanchez-may-be-jets-best-offseason-qb-option/

    The excuse last year for rookie quarterback Geno Smith always was that while he still had a steep learning curve, he could have been much better if he had actual weapons around him. But in 2011, Sanchez was blamed for all the struggles of the Jets offense – this despite a horrid offensive line and a similarly bad, if not worse, array of “weapons.”

    Yet Jets fans want to run Sanchez out of town for his struggles (and, yes, he certainly had some forgettable games) and anoint Smith for the future. They can excuse Smith because of a lack of weapons, yet they are unwilling to give Sanchez the same slack. Smith gets a free pass for his interceptions because he didn’t have good talent around him, while Sanchez is lambasted despite having equally poor targets, a worse offensive line, and a nonexistent running game.
     
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