Are You SURE You REALLY Want Sanchez Off The Jets ??

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    http://m.metro.us/newyork/sports/nf...nchez-at-reduced-rate-to-provide-competition/
     
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    and thats exactly what he should do. i mean shit if you give sanchez anything, (and im not a supporter. i feel he regressed way too far) you can at least say that he works his ass off, is by all accounts a good team guy, and has stepped up in his postseason appearances. also, with a whole year of just studying the system due to his injury, he may actually have a really good shot.
     
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    Sanchez was a lock to be off the team last year at this time, how did that work out? At this point im giving it more than 50% chance that he is a Jet in 2014. I dont see us drafting a QB when we have other needs, and what are the free agent options? Schaub? McCown? I guess you can argue Schaub has played better but Schaub hasn't accomplished as much either and has not played under the NY pressure. He folded in Houston and thats without the pressure he would recieve here in NY, and he won't be working with Foster, Johnson, etc.
     
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    i have to agree here. Schaub had MUCH more to work with for the most part. McCown is a backup. plain and simple. a very good one but nonetheless a backup. i feel at the end of the day tho this all comes down to money. if you can get sanchez to be a cheaper option than the other two, then you go with it. if not, hes gone.
     
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    Pretty much and I think Sanchez has to take into consideration things such as relocating, perhaps not getting the job, etc. Now I wonder what type of contract the Jets would give him, and I wonder what Sanchez wants. I think it would be in Sanchez's best interest to take a 1 year deal which means if he performs well then he will get paid. It would be in the Jets best interest to get him into a deal such as 3 years/12 million.
     
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    Idzik is doing his job if he evaluating all options. He shouldn't be looking to abort a player because he was a part of the past regime. If Sanchez is the best option, at the right price, why would you not take him back?
     
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    I find it fairly amusing that this topic is devoid of the SOJF this morning.

    I've been saying this all along and it's apparent that the Jets are in the same position that they'll keep anyone who they think can help the team, REgardless of who's "Guy" it is.. or what's happened in the past. I'm glad that Idzik is actually following through and looking into all of the options not pinning himself into a corner with just one hopeful ( ie/ Peyton Manning ).

    This line really stuck out at me, and one that I think people here should really take to heart;
    "The decision to simply cut Sanchez as he is set to enter his sixth season in New York is not as simple as many Jets fans might want to believe. - See more at: http://m.metro.us/newyork/sports/nf...-to-provide-competition/#sthash.0VTxP8s1.dpuf"
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a Sanchez guy by any means, but I agree with this in a way. I don't believe for one minute that keeping Sanchez makes Idzik look bad or that he'd be reluctant to keep him in the Jets plans because he didn't draft him and did draft Geno Smith.

    That's the old way of running a club and Idzik strikes me as a modern GM.

    If he dumps Sanchez he does so because he truly doesn't believe it is in the interests of the club to keep him . Or even basically that he doesn't deserve the large contract that he is receiving . Keeping/dumping him won't have anything to do with the past, with personal ties or in the interest of "making himself look good". It will be strictly a business decision - as well it should be.

    Personally I think he bounces him but I wouldn't be surprised if he signs him back on the cheap later on. I think Sanchez's injury has a lot more to do with his situation that what the media is letting on.
     
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    The way I read it was that it had 100% to do with the injury. I think if Sanchez comes to the facility and can sling it and his shoulder looks good they'll have this deal done sooner rather then later. <fingers-crossed/> so then we can move onto more important offseason acquisitions to fill out the team around them.
     
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    How the hell does this make Idzik look bad? Lol

    People act as if Idzik parted ways with Sanchez in a bad manner in order to start Geno and now he is begging for him back. Sanchez has been on this team all season. He never left. He was battling for the spot with Geno until he got hurt. Geno had a very up and down season and anyone who would issue him the starting job without a fight is nuts. Idzik sees that he has talent in Sanchez on the roster, so why not have him take a pay cut and come back for another year? Why pay or give up draft picks for a guy who is older and does not know the system? How exactly would this be a fail on Idzik?

    I think the media is just making this shit up because they, like many on here, have a problem with Sanchez possibly playing again in green and white. Idzik is not an idiot and I can bet you every damn dollar that if he brings back Sanchez and he wins the competition and takes us to a winning season, no one will think he's an idiot.

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    The media has made this shit up, they said Rex would be gone because Idzik was trying to move on, they were wrong. Last offseason they said Sanchez was gone, they were wrong. Now here we go again, media already has 2 strikes on em, one more and they have lost all credibility.
     
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    Keeping Mark would be the best option rather then going after a Vick or McCown.
    Mark is still young and has proven he is a team guy.
     
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    If the 80% world believed in choice A, but you believed in choice B based on your knowledge. Eventually choice B turns out to be the better choice how does that make you look?

    It definitely makes you look good and not otherwise.

    Choice B would be Sanchez and you'd be Idzik.
     
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    Got my toes crossed and my fingers as I would love to bump the thread below and sever a crow buffet.

    http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/could-sanchez-pull-an-alex-smith-and-take-a-big.79551/

     
  16. TonyMaC

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    This doesn't feel like a conversation about retaining him, I think they're setting him up for trade bait... gotta give an illusion of wanting to keep him to have any leverage for other teams to give up something for him.

    This is just a bit of trying to get as much out of something as possible on Idizk's part since its not likely to work. at this point a trade for a man due to be cut in march is only effective if one believes he'll be harder to attain through free agency due to competition and/or that restructuring his deal will pay off in the long run if he does pan out.

    he's got like 30 million left in base salary, imagine distributing that over 3 years after a show me year where he makes 2-4 mill, with NONE of that guaranteed. at worst you get nothing, at best a solid 28 year old vet making like 8 million.

    so thats probably the sell for the jets, you can have this low risk high reward vet with playoff experience that probably just needs a change of pace to get going and set your terms with his contract which he'll be grateful for as long as and all we want back is say, a conditional pick based on the number of starts he gets next year.


    and before somebody says "why don't the jets do a deal like that?" my answer is "Why haven't the jets done a deal like that already?" I mean wants stopping them? if they want him, they have him, theres no need to posture or beat around the bush. restructure now, theres no need to wait. hell they re-uped with Matt Simms last month, why wouldn't they make this wonderful low cost deal everybody wants by now? Were the Sanchez boys are playing hardball? in which case fuck'em they have no leverage seeing how easy a cut Mark is.

    also its pointless to have a competition of two QBs they've already seen duke it out before, and its unlikely Sanchez will relegate himself to stopgap QB (which what we're after) in lieu of opportunities elsewhere. Just looking at things from Sanchez's standpoint it makes no sense to be in NY, but every bit of sense in the world to make it seem like I will be, if only to get a chance somewhere else.

    So yeah, not buying that its a restructure to be here, its a ploy, just so they can say they tried before cutting him. he won't be a Jet my March's end.
     
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    I have a feeling their just trying to get other teams interested.

    Exploring all options up until the date where they owe him the bonus. If someone wants to trade, great. If not, cut him loose.
     
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    Could it be Idzik wants to make sure his shoulder is 100% before cutting a deal to keep him? Just a shot in the dark here.
     
  19. nyjunc

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    I want it to happen but I still would be surprised if he is back.
     
  20. Acad23

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    That quote would hold a lot more weight if it came from someone in the Jets front office, not the writer of the article.

    Let me quote something from the story-
    “[It is] highly unlikely that Mark returns to the Jets at this point,” said one league source familiar with the thinking of Jets management and general manager John Idzik. “Everything is pointing in that direction. And if he did, certainly not at the cap number.”

    A "league source familiar with the thinking of Jets management and general manager John Idzik..." LOL....yeah...and I'm familiar with how Sanchez played the last 18 months.

    Like most things in the NFL these days, the decision will come down to money.
     
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