Super Bowl XLVIII Discussion (Broncos vs Seahawks)

Discussion in 'National Football League' started by Poeman, Jan 19, 2014.

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Who wins Super Bowl XLVIII?

  1. Broncos

    50 vote(s)
    64.9%
  2. Seahawks

    27 vote(s)
    35.1%
  1. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    :)

    I don't know anything about your NFL predictions, but if you picked Seahawks over Broncos, congrats. Much better than your NBA picks
     
  2. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    point is it isn't a difficult prediction to say something won't happen that ever rarely does happen.

    watch, I'll do it now. The Lions will not win the Super Bowl next year. let's applaud me in 12 months when I'm right.
     
  3. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    i was one of those who picked Broncos Seahawks on this board in the preseason. it wasn't a huge stretch, as they both have very solid teams, and very good QB's.
    the Saints were my dark horse, but couldn't get by Seattle for home field advantage. fwiw, the Ravens were my dark horse last year.
    funny that i've been accurate on this board, but never with my bookie once pt spreads are involved!

    not sure if i predicted the winner, but it was always Denver for me.
    putting it on the record now..
     
  4. soxxx

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    TBH I dont even care who I picked, its just annoying that people constantly make claims that I am clueless and have to bring up stuff I said back in 2010 to make me look stupid yet when I predict something right, not a single person will bring it up.

    Im sure if I looked back at everyones past history im sure I could find things that would make everyone look real stupid.

    Look at what Jetblue the one who constantly attacks me once said:

    Seriously though, some of you guys must record everything I say, the fact that you bring up stuff from 2010 to take a shot at me is pathetic.
     
  5. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    You don't care who you picked, yet you have repeatedly brought up how you picked them? Don't bring the fake statements here. You care, you were right, brag about it. Just know that when you brag about it, people will poke fun about the times you were really wrong. That's how it works. It's like when Skip Bayless endlessly brags about being right about something, people will bring up all the wrong and stupid stuff he predicted before. IF you keep on propping up your success in predictions, be ready for people to go the other way.

    It's awesome you were right. It's hard to predict the NFL and it's very rare the two best teams going into the season meet in the SB yet you took the risk and were right. But if you repeatedly tell people or remind them of the prediction, people will go the other way to bring you down to earth.

    EDIT: This isn't sarcastic congrats. I really mean it. It's really tough to predict the NFL and be right. It's awesome you were able to do and pick something that really went against the NFL trends the past 5-10 years.
     
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  6. soxxx

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    No but this is different, Jetblue has had a personal vendetta against me for a couple years now, his goal is to discredit me as much as possible. I dont have the time to discredit other users on an internet forum, Jetblue clearly does though and has been doing this for years.
     
  7. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    An interesting thing, while the Broncos overall point total hasn't been high the last two weeks:

    8 possession vs SD for 24 points. Last possession they weren't trying to score. Ended at the SD 32.

    8 possessions vs NE for 26 points. Last possession they weren't trying to score. Ended at the NE 12.

    24 points on 8 possession from game 1 is 3.00 points per possession. Let's give them 3 for the last possession they didn't score, 3.375 points per possession. If we take out the last possession vs SD, that gives them 3.43 points per possession

    26 points on 8 possessions from game 2 is 3.25 points per possession. Let's give them 3 for the last possession they didn't score, 3.625 points per possession. If we take out the last possession vs NE, that gives them 3.71 points per possession.

    DEN averaged 2.98 points per possession in the regular season. In the playoffs keeping all the drives, the Broncos have averaged 3.125. The offense has gotten better. Granted the defenses they played in SD and NE aren't as good or even in the same league as SEA, but it shows the DEN offense has a low PPG but that's because they only had 16 possession in the two games. If we take points per possession, their offense actually outperformed their regular season offense. And the 2.98, according to FO, takes out take a knee drives to end the half.

    The difference of course is that the Broncos has not faced a defense like SEA and SEA has faced an offense similar to DEN, NO twice. Granted the DEN offense was a LOT better than NO this year and NO had to play in SEA twice, but I would say SEA has faced an O closer to Denvers than Denver has faced a D closer to SEA. I've been reading this week about the Seahawks cover 3 all year and how they rarely stray from it. It's very interesting, I suggest reading on this.


    Now obviously DEN O vs SEA D is the big matchup, the flip side is also very interesting. Russell Wilson has been limited, efficient, but limited the last two weeks. In fact, Seattle hasn't had to ask him to pass a lot in general. The DEN DL made quick work of the NE OL and the SEA OL has consistently been shuffled in the regular season and playoffs. But the dynamic ability of Wilson is something Denver did not have to game plan for against Brady and Rivers. The Broncos should be able to stick with the Seahawks receivers as they really aren't great, but how long can they do this? The Broncos safety position has been a weakness, can they close to the line properly to cover Lynch and hold their spots when Wilson starts spinning circles in the pocket? Lynch seems to mystify safeties all the time and they take bad angles on him. I'm not sure what it is, but safeties always thing he's slower than he is. That's the biggest difference to me, the Broncos D has their hands full and I haven't trusted them all year long. Wilson brings something I don't think they can handle. Of course the two weeks gives them a lot of time to prepare for something they haven't seen all year I would say.
     
  8. displacedfan

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    Oh I'll step out of the way then.
     
  9. soxxx

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    But displaced, why is it that when I am wrong it gets brought up repeatedly? how about when Im right?

    Like what about the Rivers topic? I got shitted on by this entire board for supporting bringing in Rivers last offseason? everyone ripped me saying he was done, I was a "clown", hell people said bringing in Colty McCoy would have been better? why doesnt anyone bring up how I was right about Rivers and 90% of this board was wrong?

    Its just annoying and one-sided constantly.
     
  10. KWJetsFan

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    Who cares? It's a message board. Sounds like you are taking nameless/faceless peoples comments personally. Why?

    Don't like it, tell them to fuck off. Otherwise, log off, go fuck your wife/girlfriend/whatever else you are into and go about not giving a shit.

    When you are done with that, come back to the board and have fun. You picked the SB correct? Good for you. Don't be so desperate for a pat on the back.
     
  11. displacedfan

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    Why would people search for when you're right if you remind us when you're right? It feels one sided to you because there's only one you repeating about your predictions then there are handful people who read what you right and remember a funny prediction you were wrong for. Again, it's awesome you were right. You can remind people over and over about your prediction, it gets annoying rereading it, so people bring up funny ones you were wrong about. It's like I said earlier, when someone twitter goes to brag about their correct prediction by retween themselves or showing their screenshots, a handful of their followers have faovited or saved a silly precition they had that they retweeted. It's there to balanced out the noise. If I ran around here repeating something I got right in tennis and NBA, I'm sure Yisman and whoever else is in the NBA thread could find 1000s of predictions I was 100% wrong about. It's checks and balances, can't let posters think they are always right :)

    Rivers is little different. That's a more nuanced argument on why Rivers had a career year. It wasn't just because he had one, it was an offensive shift and a change around of that offense. On top of that, was Rivers avaialbe? He signed a 6-7 year contract in 2009 I thought?

    Basically if you bring up something to brag or stick it to somebody, that somebody will find one where you were wrong. Like I did, you said you are more right than wrong. At least to me that sounds wrong. You've made a bunch of NBA predictions since I've joined the board and you've hit on some, wavered on a lot, and were wrong on lots more. Theres nothing wrong with that, but when you just posted you were more wrong than right I brought up some funny ones. Or I think you or someone else last year were in the NBA thread bragign about some correct predictions last year, but when we found the posts, the predictions flip flopped like crazy during the BOS/MIA and SA/OKC series. I don't remember if that was you or someone else, but similar thing
     
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    Have to go with the Broncos, the rules of today's NFL favors the offense. We just never see it because our offense is a steaming turd.
     
  13. displacedfan

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    What's funny, is that even though the NFL is geared towards offense recently, no historically top offense has won a SB in the last decade. So the game doesn't fully reward pass happy teams, but it helps them out a LOT
     
  14. displacedfan

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    See Sox

    http://regressing.deadspin.com/whic...-broncos-seahawks-super-bo-1510940670/@kylenw

    If Rich Cimini or Rick Reily bragged on twitter how they got the SB matchup correct, you know people on twitter would come in and retweet some bad predictions they made (probably Jets related). I chose those two because it seems most blogs have a strong anti-Rick Reilly thing and most Jets fans find Cimini to be just a tad bit too snide in his Jets comments.

    Then you have a writer like Bill Barnwell who usually owns up to mistakes, like him missing on IND this year, and rarely boasts about what he gets right, he would get less reaction from twitter.
     
  15. soxxx

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    It reminds of the Colts-Saints a lot. People are favoring Manning again, probably the same people who picked the Colts are picking the Broncos, although the Colts banwagon seemed a tad bigger, at least people are giving the Seahawks respect, the Saints didnt get much at all way back when.
     
  16. displacedfan

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    Ehh the deadspin thing I posted showed more people had SEA and SF winning the SB preseason than DEN. Come Sunday, a site will compile all the experts picks for the SB, but from what I'm reading people are 50/50 but the people picking SEA feel much more confident about it than the people picking DEN. When you have the two best teams, it definitely becomes a big challenge.

    If we actually look at recent SB, there have been a lot of heavy favorites in the media

    NE over NYG x2
    IND over CHI
    IND over NO
    PITT over ARZ

    This one is, so far no predictions are officially out, but I don't think they'll be as lopsided as the ones above.

    This one reminds me more of Packers/Steelers. Although it wasn't the two best teams, nobody knew how to pick or what to expect really. They knew what Big Ben and Steelers could do, but nobody really knew what Aaron Rodgers and the Packers were capable of.
     
  17. JStokes

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    Too funny.

    Really?

    You need validation from an Internet message board!?

    Wow.

    _
     
  18. displacedfan

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    Just about everyone on ESPN is rolling with the Broncos. I think a lot of people at this point cant fathom seeing Peyton not winning it all and not completing the perfect season (IMO). Fortunately football is not scripted so the Seahawks will be ruining it for a lot of people.
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    I just thought I would mention how this particular SB does not seem to engender much interest in me. Anyone feel the same? I suppose once Denver dispatched hated NE, the pressure was off there. I guess I mildly prefer Denver, since Elway is a player I respect among the most, and Manning seems like a good guy and a great plaeyr. But I also think it's great to see Carroll come so far after he was treated badly by Hess, although I'm not sure why that in itself should make me want to support him. It's just kind of a meh feeling for me. Maybe that will change. ANd it being here in NY has yet to create any personal excitement for me. I wonder how others here feel about it.
     

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