2013 Offensive Line Grades

This team needs to sign an established veteran or two at OL and develop talent at the skill positions through the draft. That is the most effective way this team can move forward. Sign Asomoah or Zane Beadles, resign Howard and hopefully Winters can develop with another offseason. That should solidify the OL for a year or two... then we will have to look into replacing Brick and Mangold.

 

O-Line has to be a point of emphasis every year in the draft and in FA. So far Tanny/Idzik have at least given the O-Line some attention, albeit not all of it has panned out. That's even more reason why every year you need to invest at least SOME in the O-Line. And once every 8-10 years you blow your 1st round pic on a LT, the 2nd most important player on any team.

 

All rookie QB: Mike Glennon.

Honorable mention: None.

Oooof.

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No way run blocking was that bad. 30th? They had several great games on the ground.... Obviously consistency is an issue.

 

They were pretty happy with Geno at the end of end the year.

That middle stretch though... brutal. Killed his grade.

 

Surprising considering the Jets ran the ball pretty well.

Guard position needs to be addressed, and if a top LT drops to us, I think it needs to be considered.

 

I totally agree. If they want to use another mid or lower round pick on an OL, great, but the higher picks (at least the first four, if not five) should all go to WR, TE, FS, & OLB.

 

I haven't seen the stats, but what I seem to remember is that they ran the ball very well against lousy teams, and hardly at all against better teams.

 

That's what most good running teams do. That's what we did in 09 when we led the league. We'd put monster numbers against the poor rushing defenses and marginal numbers against the tougher run defenses. The only difference is that in 09 we were a bit more committed to the run game. We'd still but up the carries even when were not that effective.

 

Case in point, look what the Patriots were able to do against Indy. They could not run the ball against us but they ran all over the Colts.

 

I understand what you're saying, but imo a "good" rushing team can run the ball against anyone at any time and be effective. True, and it's what the Jets have done most of their history. When they needed to close out games and needed a key first down or to run out the clock, they'd usually fail against better teams. While CuMar was here (not his fault), their rushing stats also got padded a lot with draws on 3rd and 15 or 3rd and 20.

 

It's very hard to dominate a good rush defense in the same manner a good passing offense can shred a statistically good passing defense. The rules are not as skewed in favor of the rushing offense as it is for passing O.

 

I wouldn't trust those #s at all, we must have Walter Payton and jim Brown running the ball if our OL was 30th and Ivory and Powell averaged 4.3 YPC combined.

 

I feel like we have a very underrated running game,We ran the ball well and never really got credit for it.We had a top 10 running offense late in year I'm not sure where we finished I can't find stats.Ivory avg4.6 per carry finished with 172 carries for 833 yrds,Powell 174 carrys 630yds 4.0 yds avrg,Geno avg per carry 5.1 ,72 attempts 366 yrds,not bad at all

 

some of that was Geno running which I don't really count as a run game as many times it's him just making plays but when Powell and Ivory are both over 4 YPC and both played banged up for part of the year that tells me our OL wasn't too bad and I know e got sacked a lot but many were on a young QB not making quick enough decisions. Where a year ago Mark threw the ball up for grabs rather than taking sacks and turned it over Geno took the sacks. I'd rather take the sacks but that doesn't mean the OL was bad.

 

How many times did we see Ivory get hit at or behind the line of scrimmage?

 

Yes, the Jets were tied for ninth with the ypc number. So how to explain the difference with this PFF ranking?

My guess is that the Jets, particularly Ivory, had a high yards after contact number. PFF tries to not credit the OL for yards after contact, I think.

That would perhaps explain the discrepancy.

 

Ivory thrives off contact but how do we explain Powell averaging over 4 YPC?

the RBs on the roster ran it 393 times for 1688 yds, 4.3 YPC Taking out Ivory the rest still averaged 4.05 per carry.

and this w/ almost no threat of a pass game 70% of the season. Please tell me again how bad our OL was?

 

Very true. That said, the offense should have a huge advantage over the D, even at those times when the D is all but certain that the opposing offense is going to run the ball. Unless the offense is too predictable or doesn't execute well, the D doesn't know the snap count, where the run is going, who will be running it, etc. Even if they (the D) can guess those things, the offense should still be able to execute well enough to pick up a 3rd and 1 90-95% of the time imo.

When Schotty was here, not only was he too predictable with plays, but opponents knew the Jets were never gonna snap the ball until the clock got to 0 and they had a HUGE advantage over the Jets. Factor in that Scotty had so many formations, plays etc., where the Jets' offense could never practice a few plays enough where they could execute them flawlessly consistently, and it's a wonder we ever had any success running the ball.

Now that Mangold and Brick's abilities are on the wane, it's critical that the Jets not only being looking for their replacements but get more disciplined and work harder so that they can execute flawlessly. If Geno remains the starter at QB, that should help, as a QB who is somewhat fleet of foot can aways fake a handoff into the line then sprint wide. That is one of the reasons I have wanted a QB who has the ability to run with the ball. It gives the D something else to have to think about other than the RB, and gives the offense a whole other dimension.