Good. I'm so tired of people ragging on Rex claiming that there's only one way to win in the NFL. Obviously having a great QB helps, but having a great defense and running game is also viable. The Seahawks have a very good chance of going all the way and they are 26th ranked passing yards. That is doable when you have the #1 passing defense, Marshawn Lynch and force turnovers out the ass. With the rules being updated to favor more offense and more passing, a good defense is more critical than its ever been. Look at all those high octane passing offenses the Patriots have had over the past 5 years, but they keep getting snuffed out of the playoffs by good defenses with solid running games(Ravens, Giants, Jets, etc).
Every QB can "potentially" be. There is nothing that Geno did this year that reminded me of anything Wilson did in his rookie year or Kaep did in his second year. Those 2 guys are superior talents. The "talent around them" excuse is a red herring. Maybe we surround Geno with some talent but IMHO he's never going to be either of those guys. They have better arms, are more accurate, have real football IQs, are more vocal leaders and are better runners. Just my 2 cents. Geno is not those guys. _
yes he's exceptional when it comes to that, but as there's more tape on him that'll get less and less. any running qb is one hit away from season/career ending injury (i mean any football player is that, but i would rather have franchise qb not running around)
Absolutely. My opinion and neither of can prove anything but both if those guys put us in the playoffs this year and make us perennial winners. Even with our lack if talent. We went 8-8 with pretty bad QB play, those two guys elevate the offense to at least another 2 wins and we're in. And those are 2 guys you build around. _
you can build around geno as well. both, wilson/kaep, have awesome running games (hopefully ours will be better next yr), pretty good wr (esp fast) and a bit better def than ours. i dont believe wilson/kaep led their teams to be where they are now. they've played a valuable role in where the teams are now, but they haven't been the focal point. with that said, i don't believe we would be any better w/ them on the team as oppose to smith
So you don't think Wilson as a rookie or Kaep as a second year player were better than Geno? That they wouldn't have accounted for another win or 2? That either of those guys would have had a stretch of 4 games with less than double digit completions? Both those guys threw way more TDs than INTs- way more. Seriously? With no green glasses on? You really think Geno is as good as either of those guys? That we wouldn't have won more games this year with either of them? _
no green glasses on when season's over lol both had the talent around them when they stepped on the field which is a huge advantage to have which geno didn't have
I am hardly a fan of Kaepernick. His accuracy is mediocre, and although he is effective running it, he doesn't seem to have the feel Wilson has for running at the right time AND not putting himself needlessly at risk. But despite those qualifiers, he is obviously a better Qb than Smith.
you stated couple of negatives about kaep right there, he's in his season 2 right now which seems to be worse than last year. sow what makes him better than smith?
So you are in the camp that it was ALL about the lack of talent around Geno and neither of those guys are any better than Geno. That's a fair opinion, one I decidely do not share because either one of those guys--with their first year play-- has us in the playoffs this year. Either one. Easily. _
Well if you think both Seattle and San Fran had awesome running games, then you must think so did the Jets. Jets had 2,158 total rushing yards at a 4.4 ypc average. San Fran had 2,201 also a 4.4 ypc. Seattle had 2,188 with a 4.3 ypc. The Jets and Niners were tied for ninth in the league at ypc average, with Seattle tied for twelfth. http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...nference=ALL&d-447263-s=RUSHING_AVERAGE_YARDS Arguably the Jets had a better rushing game than Seattle. I don't think there's any merit to the notion that Smith got insufficient help from the running game. His turnovers were almost all self inflicted as well. You'd have to be a Smith homer to claim he's as good as Kaep or Wilson. (Ftr I think Wilson is significantly better than Kaepernick.)
IMO Kaep is not a QB that elevates talent around him. This can't be proven one way or the other but if Kaep was the Jets QB we'd be right where we are now. A project QB that could be good if he had better talent around him. I think Wilson makes players around him better and we'd probably be in the playoffs this year.
In addition to the point i just made about Smith having just as much run support as Kaep, and it being obvious the Niners have a more effective offense, I concededly am not that fond of him. But he sure does not turn it over as much as Smith, which is huge. I can't believe anyone would really believe smith has shown near as much effectiveness as Kaep, who I agree is overrated. That does not make Smith any better.
All we hear all season long is this is a paaasing league a paaasing league. Give credit to Rex he knows this is a game won in the trenches, running and stopping the run, especially this time of year when throwing in bad conditions is ill advised. Play great defense, run the ball, win championships. I know Rex is somewhere saying "I told ya so".
Smith had 21 interceptions. Kaepernick had 8. Smith threw for 6.9 ypa. Kaep's number was 7.7. I would agree Kaepernick does not really outshine Smith on accuracy. His completion percentage is too low at just over 58%. But Kaep went down field far more often. Far more.
Having a good D and a dependable running game does not REQUIRE that the team have a mediocre Qb and passing game. I have next to no confidence that Rex knows how to develop a Qb. Maybe Marty does, so let's hope so. And ftr the Jets had a great D and a very good running game in 2009 and 2010. In neither year did they reach the SB. So you do need an above average Qb as well.
LOL--he was WORSE than last year? So he went from 10 TDs and 3 INTs to 21 TDs and 8 INTS and a 98 QB rating to a 93 QB rating and you're dumping on him because of that? Because his completion % dropped a few points? I would die to have a QB put up those numbers. And how does Kaep falling off slightly make Smith any better by comparison? I don't get that. 12 TDs, 21 INTs, a league worst 67 QB rating? _
It is a passing league. That's why every single playoff team was in the top half of the league in QB rating and every team in the bottom half of the league in QB rating didn't make the playoffs. Last I checked you can't win playoff games if you don't make the playoffs. If you don't think the NFL is a passing league compared to even 10 years ago you haven't been paying attention. When you get to the playoffs you have to be able to deal with the weather which is why these passing teams run more often and it's also a big contributor to lower scores. And of course, you have to be able to play some defense.
