Are You SURE You REALLY Want Sanchez Off The Jets ??

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    +1000.

    Go look at the first offensive play from the line of scrimmage in 2011.

    The very FIRST play of the season.

    Demarcus Ware completely untouched by Hunter drills Sanchez right in the chest. Less than. Second and a half off the snap. The video is no longer on youtube but it's comical.

    The Baltimore game iced it. Sanchez was done after that.

    Very first play of the year.

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  2. The 1985er

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    Why would the Raiders bring in Sanchez when he wouldn't be an upgrade over what they have already?

    Jacksonville see above

    Glennon has upside

    I don't see the Chargers getting rid of Rivers

    Sam Bradford is better than Sanchez. Plus according to the most staunch Sanchez supporter why would Mark play for the OC that "ruined" him?
     
  3. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Oh yeah I forgot about the Baltimore game as well. It's not like Mark has the size to absorb those hits - he's no Andrew Luck.

    Once you are broken like that, there is no coming back - you look at David Carr, he was sacked more than a lot of players coming into the league
     
  4. Cman68

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    Speaking of Carr, I heard on ESPN that he auditioned for the backup job in Dallas but lost to Jon Kitna. Guess its the end of the line for David Carr.
     
  5. JStokes

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    I don't think he'll start anywhere next year, not without playing a full year, coming off of surgery and 2012 as his most recent play.

    I could see him going to Dallas and fighting out Orton for the backup job.

    They'll cut Kitna once they get knocked out of the playoffs, he 41 year old insurance.

    Yeah, Dallas.

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    I thought Carr was a decent back-up for the Giants - but then they went and drafted Ryan Nassib.

    Carr I think definitely is done. He should do some commentary.
     
  7. jerseyjay14

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    Yes, I am sure. there is nothing i have ever been MORE sure of in my life. I want him gone, I've wanted him gone, and it pains me he isnt already gone. He is among the worst player in the NFL. not worst QB's, but worst players period. he has regressed, he is awful, and he needs to go.

    umm.. and? forget mediocure teams, sanchez collapsed against BAD/AWFUL teams. maybe you missed the cardinals game last year? or the titans game where he threw like 5 picks?
    i'll take RG3 at his worst over sanchez at his best. i would have been thrilled if sanches ever looked good enough for it to be consider a fluke.
    cassell was what a 7th round pick? the fact we are comparing sanchez to them is sad. yes, sanches is about as good as 6th or 7th round players who suck and bounce around trying to find a job. Schaub at least has had some good seasons.
    yes, these career backup scrubs are on par with sanchez. although, at least those guys havent had the chance sanchez had.... neither of those guys got 4 years of starting as a "chance"
    yes, this is were sanchez is.. in that class of 1st round reach qbs who sucked giant balls and are on their way out of the league. sanchez belongs out of the league with them
    cutler is like sanchez if sanchez did something good in additional to all the brutal back breaking picks
    i see a GREAT reason not to bring him back. he is the worst qb in football, and among the worst players in football, and we dont need awful horrible players.
    there are no WORSE options. sanchez is as bad as you can get. we might not get great, but we cant do worse. id rather let josh cribbs take 70 snaps under center
     
  8. jerseyjay14

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    it makes no sense to keep sanchez. its impossible to win with him at QB. so you have lost before you even play 1 game.

    for us to even be DECENT with mark we would need an elite D, elite run game, elite line, and elite special teams. we are nowhere close to that.

    draft a QB, or if one isnt there just roll with geno or a trash heap vet and wait until next year. get rid of the cancer that is sanchez. who knows mayeb sanchez goes to a team on our schedule and we get a free win
     
  9. JStokes

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    Dude WTF?

    How is that necessary?

    You stay classy Jet fans.

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  10. kevmvp

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    It's funny, i'd love to see some of these guys walk into a GM's office and say something like "I'd take Sanchez over Stafford". I don't know what would be funnier, actually hearing them say that or watching the GM fall on the floor laughing after hearing it.

    Your right. Why are people comparing Sanchez to the Matt Cassel's, and Matt Flynn's of the world. If they want to make their point guys like Stafford, Brees, Manning, Brady, Luck, Wilson, and Rodgers are the people he should be compared to. But you can't make that comparison because he isn't as good. Of course their response to those guys is "you just like fantasy numbers" cause ya know throwing 30-40 TD's and 4,000+ yards in the NFL is a bad thing I guess.

    The majority of the Sanchez supporters compare Sanchez to other crap that he might be slightly better then and act like that proves their point.
     
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    I don't think Sanchez is a cancer by any stretch, but for the good of all concerned, it's time to move on. Sanchez can start over somewhere out west and perhaps resurrect his career. I could see him backing up Rivers in SD and learning more about the game in the process. Coming back to New York proves nothing and will only raise the ire of the significant portion of the fanbase that will never forgive the buttfumble and the embarrassment that caused.

    Woody has enough drama on his plate already with the Ryan Saga. Why invite more with a Sanchez subplot too? I'd like to think he learned his lesson with the Tebow fiasco last year.
     
  12. JetBlue

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    why would the Jets renegotiate Mark's contract for him to take a pay cut, which would extend the length of the contract, rather than simply cut him and then re-sign him. that is what it means to take a pay cut -- redistributing the remaining money to additional years and lowering the annual due. money owed doesn't just disappear from the renegotiated contract.

    that makes no sense when you can cut him and just resign him to a smaller deal. whether he chooses to do so with the Jets than another team is another story. but nobody is going to break the bank for Mark so he can likely choose where he will play for his minimum salary.
     
  13. Barcs

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    Sanchez needs a fresh start. It'll be better for both him and the Jets. If he stays, there will be too much unnecessary pressure on him, especially from the fans. It's better to cut ties at this point, but I wouldn't go against a paycut and competition / backup role. It also depends heavily on his health. Then again, perhaps a year out of action on the sidelines learning with MM this year could greatly benefit him. I'd give him a shot, but he HAS to take a paycut.
     
  14. JetsKickAss

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    Check out the Free Press (FREEP.com)....Sanchez and Geno get more grief losing a preseason game than Matthew Stafford -- with Calvin Johnson on his team !!!! -- is getting for absolutely puking away a clear shot to the Division with every starting QB in the division on IR.
     
  15. 85inthehall

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    Look at Jay Cutler -- Has Brandon Marshall, Matt Forte last season with a defense that can take the ball away from teams at will it seems. Goes 3-4 in his last 7 games to miss the playoffs. This season he looked okay but can't stay on the field. Lovie Smith took the fall for it last year.

    You play in NY you get crucified. Eli Manning has gotten a pass because of his super bowls but look at his numbers. Best TD total 31 - also had 25 INT and 5 fumbles that season. Other top years 29TD/22 TO, 26TD/19TO. He is a career 58.6% completion...what is he able to do though? Come up big in the playoffs. He gets a pass on some shitty regular seasons because when it comes time to show up in the playoffs he does. Eli Manning is far from elite but he is a gamer that guys want to play with, is good in the locker room, says the right things, and when it has to get done he tends to show up.

    Sounds like a guy currently on IR.
     
  16. The 1985er

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    Can one of you guys explain to me what on god's green earth do you see in Sanchez? This Sanchez love fest reminds me of Tebow.
     
  17. JetsKickAss

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    We're saying he's an average or slightly better-than-average QB where it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY the Jets draft a 'franchise QB.'

    Planning on drafting, acquiring, or trading for a franchise QB is akin to a retirement plan that banks on winning the lottery. It simply doesn't happen that often.

    Better to have a COMPETENT QB who does OK in big-game situations and good offensive talent + a good defense than banking on acquiring a franchise QB.

    Check out the history of Top 10 -- hell, even Top 5 QB's -- in the last 10 or 15 years. It's under 50-50 that they even are Pro Bowl caliber.
     
  18. The 1985er

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    IMO he's not better than average nor is he competent. He's been a bottom of the barrel QB every year he's been a starter. I disagree with what you said but thanks for answering my question.
     
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    This. Don't settle for poor play and convince yourself that it's good enough. Team golden ages are born from finding their franchise QB's. We need to strive for that. There certainly are good - great quarterbacks to be found through drafting. Saying it's a 50/50 shot in the dark is a sad excuse. Be the 50 that gets it right, be the organization that becomes known for drafting great. This is how you build a legacy of winning. Right now, and even with Geno, we are talking about guys who have played at D to F levels consistently. So we are hoping for C or at the most B level performances and are fine handing command of the team to a player like that? We need to tirelessly make the effort to find the guy who consistently brings that A/B+ level of game. The truth is, under Rex at least, we can be playoff contenders every year with just C level play at QB. The defense will be that good, and we will have playmakers on offense after this year. Don't settle for that. With A/B+ at level of play at QB the Jets have the potential to become the most dominant team in the NFL. If we find Rex a true franchise QB (before he gets fired) we could establish one of the greatest football dynasties ever. That is the potential here and if you are GM that's the mindset you need to have.
     
  20. VanderbiltJets

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    He's worth the vet minimum. Nothing more. He's a stopgap solution at-best

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