Another tool just making a strong outrageous statement because it's the internet. If they sign Rex Ryan to an extension, you won't be "right", but rather just lucky this time because you spit out so much crap that you prop up as definitive that you are bound to have something come of it. The proverbial throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. No worries though, if they canned Rex tomorrow people aren't going to throw it in your face so you can say whatever crap you want, who cares right?
I think Jacks was universally predicted to be the worst team right before the season started. Teams like KC, Philadelphia and Arizona were also predicted to be near the bottom of the league. What's clear about the Jets is they are as talented as many of the teams they play every single week. We have some clear strengths and clear deficiencies, just like most of the teams we play. I'm afraid getting killed by teams like Buffalo and Miami when you're in the hunt doesn't get you a pass because some pundits had Atlanta ranked No. 1 and the Jets ranked 31 before the season started.
Good point. Rex apologists will say that this team has no talent, and that might be true on offense. But it has a lot of talent on defense. This team is no different than many teams in this league, it has some strengths and some big deficiencies. The mark of a good coach is the ability to get the most out of your strengths and hide the weaknesses. I don't think Rex has done that. Are we way less talented than Arizona or Philly? No- I don't think so at all, probably comparable. But they are 8-5 in a more difficult conference because they are being well coached.
The only issue I have with this is that the NFL is now such an offense driven league. A good offense can overcome a sub-par defense, but it takes an exceptional defense to make up for a lack of offense. We are succeeding on the 'harder' side of the ball with little to no help from the offense. Hiding weaknesses is a lot easier when you are talking about helping a TE with a chip block or rolling coverage over a corner vs. making an entire playbook to overcome bad QB play and starting your 3rd, 4th and 5th WRs instead of 1-3. They are already trying everything they can with wildcat/option play, having Cribbs throw (when he was healthy) etc.
Walt Alston managed the Dodgers for decades on a series of one year contracts. Not saying Woody would do something like that but with all signs pointing to a Rextension no matter what the record ends up being, I don't think its prudent to give Rex more than 2 years to see how much improved his coaching and talent evaluation will get. Good thing there's no rush to field a SB calibre team. It's Woody's $600million investment. He can with it what he chooses and it really doesn't matter what the fans think. That's why I don't get too emotionally invested in whether Rex stays, goes, gets tatts, etc. Whatever happens, happens.
Jets, Jets Every week after a win Rex is the man. After a loss he is gone. I hope the GM doesn't change his mind as often as we fans. Idzik will do his homework and stick with Rex or hire his replacement. The Jets will rise or fall with players. Coaches can mess it up but you win with talent in the NFL. Offense wins in the league and Rex amazingly has no feel for it. After games he talks about QB ratings. I have never heard an HC even mention it. If he is back it will be as the coach of the whole team. He he can do that he has a chance. I'm not sure he has it in him.
8-8 he definitely keeps his job 7-9 he keeps his job if they show heart and guts in the losses 6-10 means they've lost their last three...very iffy...
How? For starters, Rex's strengths are as a DC, NOT as a HC. In fact, ALL his glaring weaknesses lie in the area of HC responsibilities. MM has been a HC before and failed, and usually, we learn more from failure than success. He worked under Andy Reid, a very good, if not great HC for years following that failure. I'd be willing to bet that he learned a lot from Reid. I'd be willing to bet that MM would be better in every single area of responsibility as a HC than Rex is. I'm sure he probably knows how to handle the clock and challenges better. After all, it would be hard to be much worse than Rex in that regard. I'd be willing to bet that there would be no more ultraconservative and/or passive "play not to lose" crap that we see from Rex. I'd be willing to bet that MM wouldn't be willing to settle for FGs and then try to win with defense. We already know that MM isn't clueless about offense, so it would be guaranteed that the offense would get a lot better. How can you say that about Dunbar with such certainty? Has he ever been a DC before? No, so he hasn't had the opportunity to display what he could/would do. I can tell you this...being a great teacher requires great creativity and thoughtfulness. I'll bet Dunbar is probably every bit as creative as Rex. Unless Thurman or Dunbar wanted to totally change the system and approach (go more passive to a read and react system rather than attacking), the D might suffer a little, but I don't think that much. I mean what new has Rex come up with recently? His overload blitzes don't fool anyone any more, and unless a team has a shit OL, they just don't work. Has he been able to hide the weaknesses of the secondary? No. Has he been able to get those players to play better (which is supposedly a strength of his)? No. Rex isn't the only coach in the NFL that can get a defense playing well and that can be creative. Keeping those coaches in place would keep the desired consistency of systems and approach, would not necessitate a different direction in personnel. More than likely, players would be held more accountable. Being overly loyal would stop. The team would probably play smarter, more disciplined football. I'd also be willing to bet that the problems with one or more units on the team not showing up or being unprepared to play would stop. As I said earlier, I'm not saying that firing Rex then hiring MM as HC and keeping Thurman as DC or naming Dunbar DC is the way to go. I just think there are some definite merits to it. Could things be worse? Yes, of course they could. But they could also be better. The bottom line is this, almost every Jets fan acknowledges that Rex has some glaring deficiencies as a HC. Every HC has some, but the more successful ones find a way to minimalize or improve upon those deficiencies. Rex hasn't and in fact, has just accepted the fact that he's clueless about offense and stopped trying to learn or improve in that area. By now, we know what Rex offers, and it's mediocrity. I truly think those of you who think that with the addition of some offensive weapons that Rex is going to somehow return this team to its success of 2009 and 20010 are mistaken. Those successes were only partially due to Rex. A lot of that came from the veteran leadership and talents of the players on those teams and a lot of it came from the inevitable bump that players coaches always enjoy for their first year or two following a strict, repressive disciplinarian-type HC. Then, as inevitably always happens, by the third year of their regimes, things start falling apart and going south for those players coaches just as they have here. Rex is not radically different from either his father or his brother in coaching acumen or approach. He's from the same tree. It's unrealistic imo to think that he is going to make a radical departure from what he knows and believes in, and again imo that's what it would take for Rex to ultimately become a good, consistent HC. It's just not in his DNA.
some of us are Jet fans that root for the team I apologize if being a Jet fan on a Jet fan message board adds more gloom to your gloomy days
Perhaps the number of wins and losses matter to Woody, but I doubt it. Similarly, I doubt there is a magic number for Idzik either. I think he will focus more on how the team has played, the direction in which they are headed (are they getting better, showing improvement, or getting worse), and the job Rex and his staff have done in developing the young players and getting the most of the talent on hand. If that is the case, and with Idzik not being given the option last year on whether to retain Rex or not, I'm definitely inclined to believe that Rex is a goner. Every GM wants to name his own HC. He doesn't want his job security and ultimate success or failure to rest in the hands of a HC that he didn't even hire. He doesn't want to see his draft picks not develop and the team fail. With probably a fairly large roster turnover coming this off season, Idzik has to decide if Rex and the present CS is the coaching team he wants to build and develop this new team and lead it going forward. With Rex being undisciplined and a players' coach, I just don't think Idzik will want him. With a lot of young players, the team will need strong, disciplined leadership to develop them and build a winner. That isn't Rex.
Not really, but his track record with Seattle. The bigger question is, What do we actually have with our CS? Its totally in its infancy with everyone now in place. The bits missing now are is a half decent set of players to carry out the coaching on the field, THEN we can judge whether or not Rex and Co are decent as HCs etc.... This team is still a work in progress and you don't start firing people not even half way through the job.
You don't give them long term deals either unless they prove deserving of them and that's shows in the record and the trending. Team trending upwards, record improving, medium length deal. Team in SB hunt, Team trending upwards, record great, long term deal. Team trending stagnant, record stagnant, short term if not work thru your contract and talk later. Team trending downwards, record stagnant or worse, adios.
