and tha's solely in Rex's lap. Then again...maybe mild mannered Mark shoulda played better...or at least limited the turnovers.
that's on Idzik for the sham competition, if it was up to rex Mark would have been named starter well before the Giant game.
what the heck does this have to do with the op or any post after it in this thread? come on man you are too good to post this type of stuff in this thread.
firstly i am convinced that pete carroll is now an hgh dealer. his teams sure do have a lot of guys who flew on the wrong side of drug testing. i can only imagine how many arent dumb enough to get caught. secondly, I HOPE that competition is what the jets begin to do. it would be refreshing, and although so many fans would freak out about it, it would be a very good plan. i am also fairly confident that woody like so many others thought a few weeks ago that this team was going to make the playoffs. i can guarantee you that would have affected any cuts being made. imagine woody with a chance to make the playoffs in a season where the bowl is being played in new york cutting loose guys. it would have been really really ugly. so now that its apparent the jets are not going to be in the superbowl let the cuts begin. fuck the cap and fuck the fucking diaz brothers
Nah it is on RR for picking MS without checking his decision making abilities under pressure. Idzik is on the hook for making the exact same mistake with Geno :sad:
I think two reasons. 1. I believe the first response hits on a major point. The team is too shallow to start that process this year. We barely have had a team to put on the field, let alone enough of a selection of players to cut and sign players like Seattle did. 2. However, I think RR is partly to blame. He just doesn't operate like this. He is loyal to a fault. That's generally a wonderful trait in a human being and friends and family but a poor trait in a coach.
I definitely can agree with #2. I love Rex to death but that is the one thing he still needs to finish his education on. It's the difference of being a contributor (coordinator) and a manager (HC). As a manager you must make tough decisions for the betterment of the whole and he still hasn't gotten that 100% yet. Especially at the QB position. I'm not so sure about #1. Those were some pretty poorly talented Seattle teams up there back then. I mean...that is WHY Carroll was brought in. They weren't all that stacked. What the "competition" brought was after a couple/handful of guys got cut...literally the same week they were brought in...really motivated the remaining players. Trust me, if you know you are going to be walking the street, no matter WHO you are, at any point in time you are motivated to do/be better. I wonder how GOOD Hill would be if he were properly motivated. Because he looks like a rolling tomato out there on the field. Even Milliner. The two games after he was benched the first time he looked considerably better. He's begun to slide again...I'd pull him aside and tell him he's not even going to be ACTIVE for the rest of the year and see how much that motivates him. Just some examples and thoughts. If we are that bad now...how much worse could it be if guys aren't performing and we cut their ass and bring in someone who is more motivated with the same amount of CFL talent. I'd be willing to bet we'd see some marginally more production.
How was it a sham? Sanchez & Geno both split duties with the 1s and 2s and there's no reason to think Sanchez would be any better. How can you claim it's not true, when Matt Simms started right at the 2nd half last week plus Sanchez came in the 4th in that Giants game? What we have right now is a team that's struggling to find consistent QB play. If one of our boys shows they can handle that duty, they will become the starter. That is Idzik to a T. I don't understand why people are upset that he hasn't turned the team into a superbowl contender in year 1. You have to give it a couple years, we still need to build an offense and this upcoming draft is all about QBs and Receivers, which is what we desperately need. Geno's a 2nd round pick so we aren't forced into starting him and don't have to commit 4 years to him like MS.
If Rex and Idzik aren't on the same page, one way or the other, then this marriage was doomed from the start. A totally wasted year.
Mark badly outplayed Geno and it was clear Geno wasn't ready to play, mark should have been name starter and not been in the 4th qtr of the NYG game. Geno could have been learning from the bench until he was ready to play. It would have been best for us in the shirt term and the long term.
So far it's just a mantra of bullshit. If it was a real competition Walls would be getting playing time beyond when Milliner or the other CBs suck so much they're put on the bench only to be trotted right back out at the teams expense. Same for Simms with Geno. Chris Ivory wouldn't get pulled for Powell after the keel after good hard runs when he isn't tired. The list goes on.
Oh...we found "consistent QB play". Consistently shitty. I agree. Sanchez surely did "badly" outplay Geno. That Sanchez looked just a little bit better than Smith should have told us how bad they BOTH were. I still say Simms looks better than both of them.
Good points. I admit my knowledge of Seattle is superficial, so I'll defer to others such as yourself. If that's the case, the this really is either a case of RR not being able to make the hard decisions or Idzik talking a good game about competition but not following through (or perhaps a combination). Whatever the case may be, I completely agree with you about motivation. Telling someone that they are moments away from unemployment will motivate them! If that doesn't do it then nothing will IMHO. BTW, loved the tomato comment. You made me think of the old cult film Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
Mark didn't badly outplay Geno and even if he did, it doesn't mean the competition was a farce. The problem was that Geno was nursing an injury and missed the early preseason. We didn't have enough to time to fully evaluate him, before Sanchez got hurt. Sanchez had a good game against the Jaguars, big whoop. Geno probably would have lit them up as well. Unfortunately, Geno's first real start was against the Giants D.
injuries are part of it, geno didn't have as much time to impress and he failed to do so in his limited time. He clearly showed he wasn't ready. The best thing for the team would have been for mark to start and geno to watch until he was ready. it hurt us for the season and may end up hurting us longterm if geno cannot recover.