...but yet in an earlier thread you were comparing the rushing TDs from Sanchez to make a point of how good he was in 2011. No need to be hypocritical bro!
Great article you will never see about Geno Smith, can't help but to point it out again. Six-Pack of Reasons Why Mike Glennon Will Become a Franchise Quarterback for the Tampa Bay Bucs Too long to fully post, but here are the main points: He Has the Height Throws Where Receivers Aren't...Yet College Career Reveals Poise Avoiding Costly Mistakes He Can Run After All!
I am by no means a hardcore Geno fan but lets be real, look at TB receivers and then look at what Geno is throwing to. You cant even compare the two until this team gets some better weapons here. We most likely wouldnt even be having this conversation if Geno was throwing to NFL caliber receivers. The crap this team continues to put out there makes it hard for any QB to be successful unless we have someone like Brady, Manning, Brees, you get the point...
The other factor is that the Bucs have belatedly put Glennon into the rookie bubble after really over-exposing him the first 4 or so starts. His success has happened when he got cut back to 20-25 throws a game and the Bucs moved away from him as the focal point of the offense. The Jets have tried to do the same thing with Geno, who was better early on as the focal point, but the injuries and suspensions have killed the attempt to put him in the bubble. Every receiver and tight end on the roster is either right off the street or has been injured for multiple games or suspended for multiple games. You can't make this stuff up. Nobody has been around consistently except the guys who shouldn't be on an NFL roster. Again, not defending Geno, but people who fail to take into account the context in which he is playing aren't telling the whole tale. Give the Jets Vincent Jackson instead of Stephen Hill and the story would be different. How different? We don't know but it would certainly look better than it does right now.
Just to follow up on the post above. Every rookie QB has a security blanket. the guy he goes to much too often because he's the best option and the rookie doesn't have his feet on the ground all the way and he doesn't make a lot of second reads that first year. For Peyton Manning this was Marvin Harrison. He targeted Harrison much more often than anybody else, a fact he discusses almost every time his rookie year is brought up. For Andrew Luck last year it was Reggie Wayne, who he targeted 194 times over the course of the season. This year for Mike Glennon it has been Vincent Jackson. He's targeted Jackson 87 times already in 8 starts. That's his go-to guy when the who-what-where is out of control. Now who exactly has Geno Smith had to be the go-to guy? Holmes and Kerley started the season injured. So the go-to guys the first game were Stephen Hill (9 tgts) and Kellen Winslow (8 tgts). The second game it was Hill again (8 tgts) and Clyde Gates (8 tgts). The third game he finally had a professional wideout on the field and he targeted Santonio Holmes 10 times and had a huge game in the process. This is what rookie QB's do: they over target the best receiver they have available. Fourth game is Winslow (9 tgts) and the rest of the targets spread out 5-5-5 between Holmes, Kerley and Powell. Fifth game is Atlanta and Holmes is out. Winslow is written out of the game plan by the Jets due to his looming suspension. The go-to guys are Kerley (6 tgts) and Cumberland (4 tgts). Sixth game Holmes and Winslow are out. Geno spreads the ball around with Hill getting 8 targets, Kerley and Gates getting 7 targets each and Cumberland getting 5. Seventh game Holmes and Winslow are out. Geno gives Kerley 10 targets and Cumberland and Nelson 7 each. This is the last game where Geno will have anything resembling a professional receiving corps. The street gang is about to hit the scene in full force. Eighth game Holmes and Winslow are out. Jeff Cumberland is limited due to the concussion he sustains early on. The Bengals put the clamps on Jeremy Kerley since he is Geno's best remaining target. David Nelson gets 12 targets in the game. There's just nobody else available given the talent losses and the fact that the Bengals are taking Kerley out of the game plan. Hill gets 7 targets. Powell gets 6. It's nasty out there now because there's nobody to go to but a guy who was on the street two weeks before. Ninth game Holmes, Winslow and Cumberland are out. Kerley sprains his elbow and leaves the game. And now we're at the point where Geno's season becomes a nightmare. There is nobody to throw too. Geno and the Jets do the simple thing in that circumstance and just don't throw the football. Geno's targets on the day: Zach Sudfeld (street) 4, Greg Salas (street) 3, David Nelson (street) 3. WTF is he supposed to do? Tenth game Holmes is back after the bye but not 100%. Doesn't matter, Geno targets him 8 times because he looks like a godsend compared to the street. Hill gets 7 targets and catches nothing. Cumberland gets 4. It's just really ugly. Eleventh game everybody but Kerley is back but the Jets are done throwing for now. So the point of all this is to ask people to identify who Geno should be going to as a rookie QB. He doesn't have a healthy #1 WR. He doesn't have a #1 TE available. And for much of the season he doesn't have a #2 receiver either. Yeah, he's got a really good slot receiver. Until the guy gets hurt.
If you look at 4 reasons why Glennon is doing good and what the article points out it has nothing to do with who he is throwing the ball to. You didn't read the article or just didn't understand it, either way you stick up for Geno and you don't even know what argument you were fighting this time. He Has the Height - Geno will never be 6'7" Throws Where Receivers Aren't...Yet - Geno throws the ball behind not ahead of receivers Avoiding Costly Mistakes - Geno makes nothing but mistakes He Can Run After All! - Geno can't run despite what many of you still think
I agree they have better receivers..but Geno isn't even throwing in the vicinity of his receivers. He is throws directly to defenders that are basically just standing still - not disguising looks..just standing there. If he were throwing into coverage and catching bad breaks I could at least say well the receivers need to help the guy out, but he isn't even giving receivers a chance most of the time.
Looks like you can close this thread. Seriously, when Smith isn't on the field for offensive plays he doesn't seem to care. Like paying attention or carrying a clipboard I too low for him. When Simms or Sanchez aren't in they are always involved.
Along those same lines, whenever you see Manning or Brees on the sidelines they are always looking over photos of the opposition's defense. You never see Geno doing that or anything like that, Is that him or is that coaching?
That is a totally misinformed post. He was very good in college. Unfortunately, he had players that would make plays in college. Sadly, the skill players he had in college are better then what he has now on the Jets. NFL defenses are much more complex as well. In college, he didnt face many jail break blitzes or all these stunt schemes linemen run. It was a basic 4 man rush most of the time. The NFL is a whole different ball game and playing on this train wreck of an offense with the worst talent in the NFL, its a recipe for disaster for anyone.
Pretty much. Thats why i choose to never buy a jersey of a guy until he has proven himself. Never a rookie. That is just a waste of money...
