Lol, Mr. Agenda, I understood the main part of your post especially where you changed the narrative and started comparing apples to ravioli. I also get that you are infatuated with Geno and that makes you immune to common reasoning about him. _
In the history of the nfl since the merger, NO TEAM WITH A ROK QB and a 5-6 record has EVER EVER EVER taken his squad to the plyoffs. NEVER once.your done. daed. go home looser, everybody knows it. But then somethng odd happened. Those ny jets hired a big fattie HC who drafted a rookie QB. They found themselfs at the 5-6 wall but decided to break it down and became the first rook to take his team from 5-6 to yhr POs. so....is geno like sanchez? we will see in 5 games.
Peyton and Troy had truly putrid team - their teams couldn't do jack shit on either offense OR defense. So Smith's pulling comparable W/L ratio [with stat line much more horrible] is a testament of Geno's sucktitude more than anything.
Geno was hidden by some brilliant game planning from MM and great defensive of play. A funny thing happens in the NFL is that DCs are not stupid and what Geno can and cannot do got put on film. The blueprint is written on Geno we will see if he MM and can adjust. This team seems to play differently at home (especially on offense) that is the only logic to keep playing Geno see if teh home crowd helps him.
Even if Smith came and played lights out it would be too soon to crown the kid as our savior. It's still too soon to judge this kid. Let him come in next season with an open competition at the position and take it from there. Chill people.
An open competition requires having somebody else with the chops to take the job from Geno if he hasn't shown enough to keep it. Right now the Jets have very little talent at the QB position and having a bunch of secondary talents fight it out for the job isn't going to produce a first rate QB. After that consideration you have to realize that having people like Ryan Fitzpatrick and Matt Cassell throwing to the Jets current crop of receivers would be a joke.
It's like I e said in other threads on this topic, management must be dedicated to improving the offensive side of the ball the way they've been with the defense the past few drafts. Better players, better weapons & protection add to better QB play. Sanchez seems to want to be here. I say rework the guys contract, draft a top prospect and let the 3 fight it out in camp. Or go after a guy like Cutler and let Geno sit and watch, also drafting another prospect in a later round. I still think it's too early to give up on Geno but I think Rex should have sat the kid and given him a different prospective of the game. I take the position that if I've given up a roster spot to have you on the team you should be able to play when called upon. Put Simms in for a game and see what happens. I really doubt it can get much worse?
if he showed something to be excited about people would be excited. 15TD and 20INT with 5 games to go -- well at least he is putting points on the board we can live with it, but 8TD? 5 games with a TD pass and 9 games with multiple turnovers? Only 2 clean games all season? That just screams a guy in over his head and out of his element. His interceptions are bad luck - tipped ball, off a receivers hands, bad route, great play...he is throwing right to the defense.
Open competition at the QB position is the dumbest thing a well managed team can do. Jets management has to make some decisions and if they can't then they need new management.
The Steelers did an open competition at QB in 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972 and 1974. That turned out pretty well. The guy who kept narrowly winning or occasionally outright losing that competition is in the hall of fame today. The Chargers had two QB competitions last decade, early on between Brees and Flutie and then later between Brees and Rivers. No championships out of that but two good to great QB's. The Seahawks had an open competition last season and got great results out of that. Having the QB spot nailed down to quell dissent and create team unity is only really valuable if you have a good QB in the spot or if one of the candidates is clearly less qualified than the other.
Pretty much BS but have at it. Bradshaw was benched several times not the same as a QB competition. Staubach was in an open competition also. It probably cost Dallas a SB. The purpose of having the QB position nailed down is there are limited reps and O's and D's are highly complex. Management has to make a decision and move forward. In every case there is a QB competition it's because management doesn't believe their is a starting caliber QB on the roster. How did it work out for Seattle? That was the most talented team in the NFL. If they made the decision to start Wilson in TC they may have had the home field throughout. Nobody says the QB competition cost them a SB but it may well have.
Joe Gilliam came out of camp as the Steelers starting QB in 1974 after a *drum roll please* QB competition. Then he got hurt.
Exactly management screwed up but since he got hurt the dumb decision didn't bite them in the ass. If your point is that it was a good decision to have the competition and the guy who won the competition didn't take a snap how was the competition a good decision? I forgot about Gilliam because he didn't play. Hardly makes the point that the competition was good for the Steelers it was an awful decision that didn't matter.
And? He was awful in his 6 starts. 4TD 8INT's. The Steeler team won the SB because Gilliam went down. Plus they were really good on both sides of the ball. That said the Raiders were really good on both sides of the ball and they had to go through them to win a SB.
I really do not like comparing Geno to Manning OR Aikman for that matter...both Mannings. Those people you just named were drafted as the SAVIOR of their teams. The defacto franchise. They had the skills, measurables, intangibles etc... They were 1st round talents that were brought in to utterly PUTRID teams. There is no way in flying hell you can compare the Colts or Cowboys of their time(s) to the Jets of today....even in the worst season Ryan's Jets have had top notch defenses. That alone will at least put you "in the game". Smith was a whiney brat who had to be "convinced" to come back to the draft when he fell out of the 1st round. He did NOT come from what many would consider a top flight program and even there was not what I would consider a "world beater". Face it the Jets rolled the dice and lost.
Well - face it. Without the Great Train Robbery, the Cowboys dynasty as we know it does not even exist. As for the 49ers dynasty, it took no less than a visionary in Bill Walsh. Steelers dynasty in the 70's? Check Mel Blount rule - Steelers CBs were absolutely MUGGING the receivers at the LoS. As you can see, most of the dynasties happen because of these outlier effect. In today's game, that outlier effect comes from the QB play. Hence the dominance of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. And Jets are again out of luck.
