He has the skillset to be another Russell Wilson. Elite pocket awareness, can make all the throws & makes big plays in big games. What I worry about is if he has the same decisuion making skills as Wilson. Wilson almost never forces anything downfield & is very careful w/ the football. Manziel is a gunslinger & you can't always get away w/ that at the next level.
Lol, those guys are the same guys if they come out after 2 years. So illogical- Eli wouldn't have become Eli if he came out a year earlier? Lol. Your spin is the only thing easy. _
In college they always try to add an extra inch or two to their listed height, when he gets measured at the combine I'd be shocked if he was taller than 6'.
Yes, if Eli comes out a year earlier he probably doesn't make it in the NFL. He almost didn't make it coming out after his senior season as a 3 year starter. He was still wildly inconsistent going down the stretch in the Giants miracle year when they beat the Pats for the first time. Eli was a few bad games from run out of town.
Can't wait. Going to be fun being able to see big time QBs on every snap. Watched Teddy yesterday but had to turn away when UCONN had the ball :grin: _
Truth be told, I'm a closet McCarron fan. Just can't tell if he's really as good as I think or whether its a product of the talent around him. I think he could be Matt Ryan at the next level. Not a huge arm but super accurate, can read defenses, tough, a huge leader. Lol eating Doves :grin: _
This is the truth though. Eli Manning was on the cusp of an ordinary career in 2007 headed for an early backup role. 3 years, no home runs, and the 4th year actually looking worse than the 3rd. That's where he and the Giants were in mid 2007. The Giants were winning that year with Eli having terrible games in the process and getting bailed out by the defense 16-3 against the Eagles with Eli passing for 135 yards. The next week they beat the Jets with Eli passing for 186 yards. Then the Falcons, 303 yards and 2 Int's. Then the 49ers 146 yards. Then a 13-10 win against the Fins with Eli passing for 59 yards on 8-22. *Then* things got ugly with the Giants opening the passing game back up and Eli throwing picks in bunches as they start to lose again. The Giants made the playoffs that year based on a 6 game winning streak in the first half of the season where Eli threw for 232, 135, 186, 303, 146 and 59 yards. In the 6 games Eli had 9 TD's and 10 turnovers. Sometimes fate is kind to a team and a player and 2007 was one of those years for the Giants and Eli.
I know the history of Eli very well, my father-in-law is a Giant die hard, we watch the games together just about every week since the 1980s Lol you think that Eli would not have made it in the NFL if he came out a year earlier and you defend your agenda with some fiction. :rofl: _
No, keep up with the conversation. Stating that Eli would not have made it in the NFL had he come out a year early is totally fictionalized and cannot be proven one way or the other. It's a bullshit red herring argument. It's not valid no matter how many subsequent stats you throw at it. _
Hypothetically if we signed Alex Smith we'd be 7-2. No we wouldn't, we'd be 3-6. How can you say that, we'd be at least 5-4 and probably 6-3. You are so wrong, we wouldn't be better than 4-5. It's bullshit fiction that cannot be proven one way or the other. Just like predicting what Eli ultimately would have become had he come out a year earlier. We have no idea what team he would have gone to, what coaching staff what OC, what weapons, what QB coach he would have had. Maybe he goes to a team with an MM like or Harbaugh like OC with a Megatron or a Fitzgerald or an Adrian Peterson and he becomes a pro-bowler in his second year. Maybe he goes to a team where he sits for 4 years and steps in like a seasoned pro. Maybe he becomes BETTER than Peyton. Or maybe not. The guy has the physical tools and makeup to be an elite NFL QB, he was born with them. But someone with an agenda driven opinion says otherwise and it can't be disproven so-what? It's true? Lol. _
Not huge games for either guys, it's so tough when Bama is so dominant running the ball and so dominant on defense. Zach got crushed in the 4th quarter and couldn't do anything to mount a comeback. McCarron is just so efficient and accurate and in the second half all he needed to do was to hand off to Yeldon. His big TD was more run than throw but that was a beauty to Norwood with the DB draped on his back. Zach throws a great ball though and is a big guy. _
You and me right there. I just can't see him lasting that long. Do you jump on him in the 3rd? We may have the extra due to Revis. _
He quoted some stats and you called it fiction. Use some reasoning as you defense instead of being dismissive and you could actually prove a point. For now you just look like a silly little child.
Again FOLLOW THE NARRATIVE otherwise YOU sound like a silly little child. The "fiction" had nothing to do with stats he posted- it would be moronic to suggest that stats anyone could look up are fictional. The "fiction" I was talking about involved playing the if-then game. IF he came out a year earlier THEN he probably doesn't make it in the NFL. Seriously, go buy a clue and stop jumping into the middle of a thread to cast stones if you don't understand the context. _
