The Jets are dead last in the league with a horrible 9 passes defended against, the team in first (KC) has 45, 5 times more than the Jets. Our D-line is sick, and is potentially one of the best in the game, but our secondary has gotten weak, I really hope Dee Milliner shapes up and eventually molds into the solid CB we need. I wonder if the Jets were right to trade Revis away, if we had him this would possibly be the best defense of all time. Thoughts? I personally think our CB's don't get physical enough at the line, I don't know if that's on the playcalling and the coaches want it that way, or what, but one of the reasons Revis was as good as he was is because he disrupted routes by dominating receivers at the LOS, it would have been really nice if Milliner was at least able to learn under Revis for a year, I think it would have been good for him.
Hindsight is 20-20. I've said this before, but imagine if we kept Revis and drafted Richardson with our original pick? Damn it Revis and your greed!
I think we just overrated them last year. No one had to pass on us because they could simply hammer us by running the ball instead.
When it comes to Revis I have nothing against a player getting his $, but he almost priced himself out of the market, he and Rex were good together, you already hear rumblings of Revis is happy with the coaching style of the HC in Tampa, if Revis wasn't so concerned with getting the most $ he could of been home on Revis Island enjoying playing with a defense that now has a great front 7
Darrelle Revis and Darrin Walls have the same number of pass defends. 4. As in so many other things during Revis career with the Jets his presence on the field wouldn't have made anybody else play better. Antonio Cromartie has zero passes defensed after 5 games. He had 5 after 5 games last season including 4 in the 3 games Revis had already missed. The reason the Jets have fewer passes defended this year is the pass defenders aren't playing as well as they did last season. Period. Revis was out after game 3 and had missed the Steeler game and yet the Jets were playing better pass defense. The problem with the shoulda kept Revis argument is that the Jets would not have Sheldon Richardson right now if they had done that and they'd have a big cap issue about to hit them in forehead when they tried to extend Mo Wilkerson. No Sheldon Richardson, Mo Wilkerson possibly unaffordable. Yeah sign me up for Revis...
We would still probably have Sheldon Richardson if we kept revis. We would have used the 9th pick on him instead of Dee Milliner
This is a common misconception. Teams do not take the 2nd player on their board when the 1st player is still out there. If Revis was on the Jets and signed the Jets would have taken Milliner on the 9 because they were in the process of getting rid of Cromartie. If they were just playing out the string with Revis and hoping to sign him before the end of the season they'd have taken Milliner. Think about it. No 13 pick, no Sheldon Richardson. Mo Wilkerson isn't going to be cheap to extend either. Not the way he is playing. There's no way the Jets were planning to pay Revis, Cromartie and Wilkerson at market. Nobody can afford to do that in today's NFL.
I give Ryan a lot of credit on seeing the writing on the wall and drafting guys who can kill QB's. There is little point in paying huge money for guys to defend down field when the refs are going to protect the players they are defending with PI calls and personal fouls. Defenses are adjusting with more pressure and the Jets have drafted to apply it. NFL QB's are in serious trouble. I suspect this year will have a record number of starters who miss games with injuries. Of course the league will make adjustments. I suspect OL will be given the right to hold outright on passing plays in the next year or two when a couple of the high profile QB's are forced to the sidelines with career ending injuries. For now defense is about stopping the run and pressure. Ryan is ahead of the curve. Those worried about our secondary are missing the big picture.
....or the NFL will transition more to the ProBowl not allowing blitzing. Can only rush 4 players. Something like that.
The NFL has real options ahead of them and one of those options, probably the best one, is to be absolutely merciless on the head hunters and other players who make the most of their opportunities to injure and main. Watch Suh over the next few seasons. I'm guessing he is retired early by the NFL. He's your canary.
They might have got Tampa to bite on a trade though, swapping first rounders so Tampa could take Milliner and still netting and addtional pick this year. No that this would solve the upcoming cap crisis if we hadn't shopped Revis.
How do you know they were in the process of getting rid of Cromartie? I've never read or heard that anywhere. I seriously doubt they would have taken Milliner if they had both Revis and Cromartie as their starters. The Revis trade did net us Richardson....It was revealed a few months after the draft that the top 4 players on their draft board was 1. Tavon Austin, 2. Dee Milliner, 3. Chance Warmack, and 4. Sheldon Richardson. If we kept Revis, our #9 pick would have been Warmack, and we wouldn't have had the #13 pick.
They might have done that. I think Milliner dropping as abruptly as he did was a big X factor in the draft and that and the Bills trade out in front of the Jets made the Milliner pick pretty unavoidable.
Assumng that your board is right, and I haven't seen that anywhere else at this point, the Jets would have drafted Milliner on the 9 in the scenario you are suggesting. They wouldn't have hopped down to their 3rd guy when their 2nd guy was still there. Note that Cromartie was only signed through 2014 and Revis would have been expensive as hell to keep and Kyle Wilson is also a free agent after the 2014 season. If Milliner was #2 on their board he was the 9 pick unless Austin was there.
Now Imagine if we traded Revis for a 2014 1st round and drafted Sheldon with our # 9 this year. YIKES!
It doesn't matter. Getting rid of the head hunters and protecting the skill players including the QB isn't going to solve the liability problem which lies with the damage to the interior lineman. The rules are going to have to be changed to protect them which means an entirely different game. Getting rid of headhunting isn't going to stop the long term carnage and liability. It's a good cosmetic pr stunt but its not going to be enough. The game as we know it is going to radically change. You're right in the short run that will be a stopgap but as the science gets more transparent the NFL is going to look like Tobacco companies selling cancer.
1. It will take some time before Milliner gets going at NFL speed. Just like it takes some time for Geno Smith to get going at NFL speed. [As for that, what a out-of-the-park home run Richardson pick was. Oh, boy.] 2. And again, it's talented depth issue. The blame goes back to that fucking moron, Tannenbaum. You should never make a staple example of trading your mid round picks away to secure that few coveted prospects. Your team loses depth and it shows. It will take some time to restock the roster. I mean, CB has Cro and Milliner. Can you say the same about OLB and S? Jesus. 3. About Revis - that fucker didn't know his value right. I am so glad his ass is gone. Revis on field is surely missed, but not at $16M/yr price tag. I hope he enjoys his 0-4 franchise.
