We are asking these kid to absolutely carry this team. He looks like he could be a monster once he has experience and talent to lead. For all the issues, he makes some beautiful throws and he's tough as nails.
Geno will have more games like this one this year, and he will also have great games also. It's all good.
If he survives long enough to improve. They are putting kid on an island with a target on his uniform say come get me. They expect him to carry the team in a pass 1st deep passing offense with a terrible offensive line and constantly having to make up extra penalty yardage. Our line was 27th ranked in pass protection coming in to today's game. Part of that is obviously running an offense with a such a big emphasis on the deep passing the game but also part is the large droppoff from Slauson and Moore to Ducasse and Colon. While Geno throws a pretty ball and can make big plays they need to protect him more with the playcalling. They can't just throw him out there and say Geno go win the game and btw defense please hit him at will. There needs to an emphasis on protecting the kid from hits and from himself with a more balanced offense. More short passes and more running.
Agreed this board is pretty pathetic. They want a stud after 4 games. He is a ROOKIE with minimal seasoning from the pre-season due to his ankle injury. Give him time. The kid has all the physical traits to be a good QB. He's already made a dozen throws I never saw Sanchez make in his 4 years here (not that Sanchez is to be used as any type of measuring stick). He needs to work on the mental aspect of his game. He cleans that up he'll be an above average QB. No question.
Sacked 5 times. Hit 11 times. The fumbles were inexcusable (and fixable) but he really needs to be protected better.
not even after those beauties to holmes and hill vs buffalo? I don't mean to only focus on what good he's done and ignore today(today was atrocious) but he's done some good out there in the past 3 games.
Looking forward to Geno playing OK/Good/Outstanding in 6 road playoff games this year and next and going 4-2 in those games !!
this braindead bum isnt any kind of future, period. draft a QB next spring. i dont give a rats cunt if hes a rookie. on what planet is it ok to hold the ball the way he did when he fumbled the first time?? what about the second fumble in the end zone? what the shit was that?
The OL isn't terrible. It's built to be a power running OL and they are asking it to back up and let the D punch them in the mouth over and over again. We need a TE who can seal the edge and we need to start pounding the D Line with our OL instead of asking our OL to be punched in the mouth for 60 minutes. There's a reason Sanchez could suck and we could win games in 09 and 10. We didn't ask him to do very much.
and we're asking geno to do nearly everything. theres been a lot of comparisons to the 09 team, and thats the biggest difference.
You mean Buffalo, the team that didnt have any cornerbacks? All you had to do was just throw down the field and it was an easy catch. Those passes were all wobbly too.:rofl: Can you name these traits? Dont forget about this: In his defense it was preseason, but still. These are examples that Geno doesnt have the IQ necessary to be a good QB.
He needs to stop running backwards; this isn't college anymore. Throw the ball away or step into the pocket even if it means a for certain sack. He keeps turning what can at worst be 3-5 yards losses into 10-15 yard losses and/or safeties.
The thing that bothers me most about the Geno situation is that the Jets seem to be doing the same thing they did with Sanchez - putting tons of pressure on a kid they should be developing. Also known as RLS - the Ryan Leaf Syndrome involves taking a QB prospect with potential, but who is clearly not ready to lead an NFL team, and tossing them in the deep end of the pool. Some survive. The vast majority do not. I suspect the end result will probably be the same as with Sanchez - a QB who is unsure of himself and makes tons of the sort of mental mistakes that make him worthless in the NFL. Only it may not take 4 seasons to wreck this kid, because the team around him isn't as strong as the '09 and '10 Jets were. I've heard it said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Alex Smith's 4-0 right now, and something like 26-3 in his last 29 starts. I'm literally laughing at your comment right now.
The same defense that picked off Joe Flacco, the defending SB MVP, 5 times? The one that held Brady in check week 1? The only player that they were missing vs us was McKelvin. If you have a problem with any of his TD passes/long gains vs the Bills, you clearly have no idea what you are watching about. The 69 yard TD to Holmes was an absolute rope. That takes great arm strength and accuracy. You could not ask for a better throw. Arm strength, poise, mobility, and he has shown very good accuracy and pocket movement. You have named one "example" and that means Geno doesnt have the IQ necessary to be a good QB? Ryan Fitzpatrick has a higher IQ than everyone on this board, and he's a backup. Geno has made some rookie mistakes. Its expected, and if you didnt expect it, than you are just ignorant. He has flashed very good signs, and every Jets fan should hope he can build off that. If you can not see the positives, then dont bother watching football... Damn, posters like this make this board unbearable at times.
You don't think him being 26-3 has anything to do with the teams he's been on? 49ers and now went to a team that has a great defense, good HC and staff, and a good offense with a top offensive player in Charles and a good WR in Bowe. He's a good game manager, but nothing more. I don't see KC going anywhere in the playoffs for that reason.
What they are doing with Smith is nothing at all like what they were doing with Sanchez. Sanchez was declared the starter after a sort of bogus competition, but the emphasis of the offense was firmly on the running game. They knew that Sanchez had only started 1 year in college, so the thinking was that you need to ease him into it, let the running game do most of the damage, and have Sanchez throw some short passes to build his confidence up. With Smith, the feeling is that the team is in rebuilding mode, and we don't have an elite running game, so if we're going to win games Smith is going to have to be successful throwing it down the field. He is very accurate overall, and there are some good things despite my earlier criticisms, but he is also making tons of terrible mistakes that can easily just give games away. He played very much like the rookie he is today. If he keeps having multi-interception games, this season is going to be ugly- but the other possibility is that he will improve more because he's being put into situations where he will get more experience. Smith started tons of games in college, so there's not as much of a feeling that he needs to be coddled, even though he wasn't doing a pro style offense. In 2009, the view was "don't let the rookie QB screw things up too much, and we have enough good players on this team to really do some damage." In 2013 it's "we are rebuilding, but we have some talent- but if we're going to score points it has to be through the air." The hope with Sanchez was to develop him into a reliable game manager who could do enough to keep the chains moving and switch things up from the 6 yard running plays. The more he struggled with ball security, the more they got conservative with him, and the worse he got. With Smith they're accepting that "ground and pound" is how you win in 1983, not in 2013. With the modern rule changes, you have to win through the air. You have to have a quarterback. A traditional pocket passer type - and Smith is a pocket passer type. He's meant to stand in the pocket and sling it downfield - if he is ever going to be a successful QB, that's what he's going to be doing. So the thing is, okay, let's have him do that, then. If he's going to make his hay doing that, let's get him the experience now, let's see how good he can get at that in his rookie year, and then depending on where we're at and what we see in him, maybe we take another QB since this will be a QB-rich draft.
