How about the 7 different 3-and-out's the Jets had... 6 called rushing plays TOTAL between them all. ouch.
Play designs were for a fair weather game. Yes excellent schemes. I thought it ballsy brilliance when it started pouring to let Geno air it out right away. But then to keep doing that was a bit much. They never forced the pats to load the box and stop the run.
Spot on. Post and re-post this until people get it. EXECUTION was lacking (i.e. catch the ball). At least 5 obvious drops left at least 80 passing yards and a TD on the field. 32 running plays and 39 passing plays is decent balance. Geno made some errors for sure but overall his level of play is acceptable/understandable.
Jets Fan Base 2011/2012: Rex sucks! Fire Rex! This is a passing league! This Ground n Pound shit doesn't work! We need a QB that can pass! Jets Fan Base week 2 2013: Morningwood Sucks! Fire MM! Why is he passing so much! We have great RBs! Run the ball! Most.Schizophrenic.Fanbase.Anytimeoftheyear.
To be fair, we weren't getting 5 yards per run in 2011 or 2012. Obviously there needs to be a balance, but the run game was successful against the Pats (except for Bohannan, i guess). He probably should have kept running on them in the 2nd half.
Running teams run the ball all day on stacked lines. They do it by matching up blockers on tacklers. Once the running game gets going it opens up play action. Using the pass to set up the run doesn't protect the rookie QB, it protects the veteran running backs. The Jets had 318 total yards 15 first downs and 4 turnovers. I don't blame that on Geno but that's a horrible Offensive performance particularly under today's rules.
This thread is a bunch of bullshit more or less. You can't blame the guy for calling an aggressive game and barely losing to a top team on the road with that amount of poor execution. At most, there were a few somewhat disturbing decisions that could become an issue in the future if he literally never adapts. But at this time there isn't much of a reason to expect that to be the case. I thought the repeat FB dives to some rookie scrub was a little over the top absurd. That's the main one that shouldn't be repeated very much this year. Other than that they should have utilized Ivory more. Not necessarily by adding many more running plays, instead giving him all of the carries and just spelling Bilal. It's easy to understand how that happened given Ivory's horrible stat line Sunday, but moving forward they need to recognize he's the primary back and start treating the rushing game plan as such.
Wtf? There were like 10 drops to the scrub WR's that can't catch. Hill had his obligatory fumble and the rookie 2nd round QB finally wilted to all of that pressure plus a downpour in the 4th quarter. That's how?
You have a tough OL and good FB and a beast running back. What's wrong with matching up blockers on tacklers and pounding the crap out of NE? Why have a rookie QB throwing to scrubs? You don't think MM knows that at this point?
Even when we did run in the 2nd half, it was with Bilal Powell or (or Bohannon??, instead of Chris Ivory) up the gut, right @ Wilfork. How about a toss sweep, Marty?
Guess I missed where we have a good FB. Pretty sure we have some 7th round rookie that has never done anything besides not getting cut in training camp. The OL might become tough if Ducasse really has caught on but even if that's the case the right side of the line looks shaky pretty often anyway. Hindsight is 20/20 and yeah maybe calling some extra runs if they all went to Ivory would've worked out and won us the game. We also would have won the game if anybody bothers to make a catch or two in the 3rd quarter, Hill doesn't fumble like a jackass, Geno doesn't melt down in the 4th, any number of things. Plus who knows, maybe the defense sells out correctly against a few runs we go 3 and out and there are nine people crying to have seen the promising rookie take his chances compared to your griping? MM has a history of success as a pass happy OC and he relied on that in this instance. It didn't work this time but it could have easily. If both he and the players don't learn and grow from this then it's pause for concern looking forward. Until that time it's just one game that we were supposed to lose not working out. Happens to almost every team multiple times a year.
Definitely would have been nice to see more running in the 2nd half - especially when we were dominating time of possession. The Pats defense had to be sucking wind. But we know Morningwood was going to be pass heavy coming into it.
The Patriots had a lot of drops too. That's what happens when it's raining that hard. I don't know if it showed right on TV, but that storm came through my area on the way up north and there were literally sheets of water coming down, blowing side to side. It was wild. It was raining so hard it was almost as loud as the thunder. You can't blame the OC for bad execution, but you CAN blame him for not taking weather into account in the game plan. You have to be able to run the ball in bad weather, especially with a rookie QB. That game plan probably would have worked if it wasn't pouring. It will get better as the year goes on, I have no doubt, but I didn't see any in game adjustments on offense.
I get it but every coach has their own quirks and tendencies that they go with. Some coaches like Schotty and Sparano don't have success going with their tendencies, others like MM do, and there are a couple of people in the world that can do it all perfectly tailored to situation. He might not be the best OC in history and he went with what he knows and trusts in less than ideal conditions for it, but that's how it went. They haven't seemed to catch onto the fact that Ivory is the guy yet and that may have been a factor but I think there has to be some benefit of the doubt until MM never catches onto those things and his offense is too ineffective too often.
Maybe our FB sucks, why are we giving him carries over Ivory? You don't have to have a FB in. You can go big on the line, you can even pull a TE for a tackle. The point is the Pats couldn't move the ball, it was a close to the vest game. We were actually moving their nose tackle off the blocks. We should have shoved the ball down their throats and gone over the top with play action. You know what Steven Hill was known for in college? Blocking down field in the running game.
I agree with you more or less but it's a pass happy league and this is a pass happy OC that felt like being pass happy in an easily winnable game, plus it could have easily worked out. I'd rather go down swinging than go out like a bitch which is what our OC's have been doing since god knows when. If he can't make it work often enough in the future then we have a problem at OC and QB in all likelihood. If he can make it work out then this will go down as just another game in the regular season that could have gone either way. Cut the guy a little slack people.
