Ok? That was my point. Rivers' kicker failed him there. He made enough plays to get points on the board and the kicker missed. Twice. Ben didnt have to do much because the running game was working in the first half and they had a scoop and score for a TD. We we're playing from behind all second half. Ok. As did Nate Kaeding. "Completely changed the game" is hyperbole that you can't define. You have separate rules for separate players. Sanchez winning playoff games 3 and 4 years ago doesn't mean he's any good. Numbers indicate over the course of a 16 game season who's good and who isnt. Sanchez finishes at the bottom.
Me either, but the retardeness of this off season, needs a harsh reminder. I took shit on another forum, for being right about Garrard, (duh) and the fact that Sanchez would, in fact be the opening day starter. After Garrard, it was even a blind Squirrel finds a nut. Sanchez, the broken clock analogy. I dont think theres an analogy, for 3... :rofl: The thing of it is,I Love the Jets getting Geno., but all of this was obvious, including him not being ready to take over an NFL team. I really think part of it is understandable frustration, but not a single thing that has transpired this off season...hasnt been transparent.
His K did fail him but did that mean he had to make an asinine decisions to throw a ball up for grabs from his EZ? Ben made big plays early and late to close it out. He played much better than his rating would indicate. kaeding was never put in a position to win the game in the '09 div rd. he was in the '04 WC game but not the '09 div rd. if Brien makes either one of those kicks we make the 2003 title game. Watch the games, that play was vital to the outcome. Where did I say Sanchez is good now? where did I say he was anything but awful a year ago? you think I am moving the argument b/c you don't understand what I am saying or not paying attention to what I am saying.
How about putting up 32 scores under Schitty? Favre couldnt. Penny Couldnt Bradford couldnt. and he had a CAREER year :rofl2: I guess all those guys suck too right? lets recap, back to back AFCCGames, next season, he puts up 32 scores,, and in four years, has exactly ONE losing season. A season in which he had no OC, and lost the best skill players to motpre injuries than a Queens trauma ward.
I am a sore loser but a gracious winner. I could sit hear all day and dig up old posts that prove I was right but I don't bother. Winning is its own reward for me. In this case I just want the team to win, heck if mark sucks and geno comes in and lights it up I'll be happy. I want mark to succeed, I know he can but I want to win.
Chad did lead us to the playoffs and if we kept him in 2008 we would have won a div title. Bradford is going to do it this year, I think SL is going to win the NFC West.
You seem to be ignoring regular season ineptness while propping up single postseason wins as some sort of accomplishment. Especially when it's clear, with NFL parity, the postseason generally produces random results.
I don't ignore his flaws, I discuss reality. He was inept in ONE season, a season where Chaz Schilens started for us. he had NO ONE to throw to and the run game was mediocre at best. He was good in the reg season(better than good in 2010) the other seasons.
His rookie season he was inept. He played decently in 2010. Inept in 2011 and out of the NFL level bad last season.
Considering he was surrounded by the best rushing attack in football and a very good defense is rookie year, his play was poor...especially in context with the other successful rookie QB's we've seen since 2009. That team was a lot better than 9 wins. He had 26 turnovers in 2011. Turned the ball over at "key" time that "changed the game" That's how it goes right?
It was a combo of the two, Peyton played great which he has rarely done in January but was that more about him or our D? The best running back was useless come January. remember, we had a couple of HUGE games against Buf and oak which skewed the #s a bit. Our rush O was very good, it wasn't great. if the D doesn't fold against Miami, jax and Atl we win 12 games. He accounted for 32 TDs too. In 2007(Eli's 1st SB year) Eli accounted for 24 TDs and 27 TOs. when were these TOs that changed the games? the game changing plays were more on the D- the 95 yd drive at Den, the 99 yd TD, the 13 min drive at Mia, the allowing of Oak and NE twice to run out the clock and pad leads,...
Can you explain your fascination with certain games skewing numbers? Statistics are statistics. There's no skewing over a 16 game season. Every player of every team has big games and bad games. Your "well if you take away this game or that throw or that drop....then this would have happened" You cant do that. What happens, happens and everything adds up to what you are as a player. Im not going to dismiss a 5 int game for the sake of it. As far as 2009, the defense gave up 10 points to Atlanta. And since we're playing the what-if game, if Peyton plays the second half we lose to the Colts. There are games we won that year where Sanchez did not play well too.
if a player throws 20 INTs and 12 come in 3 games, that means the rest of his games(in this case 12) only had 8 more INTs. This particular player had an awful 3-4 games, the rest of his season was good. over 70% of the season was good but the 3 bad ones overshadow the rest and make his season look bad. In 2009 the rushing yds were skewed from 2-3 ridiculous games. Great games but not a true indicator of how good or run game was. Only 10 pts- looks good, right? but w/ the game on the line they allowed Atl to score the winning TD. When it was time to win they couldn't close it out like a big time D usually does. we may have lost at Indy if they didn't rest starters but we'll never know. Sure there are a few games we won where he wasn't great, there were games we lost where he did play well too.
this is where you guys get crazy, b/c I don't give him ALL the blame you think I don't give him any of the blame. I give him proper blame for failures and proper credit for success.
