Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    Within the organization not the public or media

    Sanchez was handled wrong we all know this

    I'm not blaming him, I'm blaming the organization for not taking proper action with coaching him and holding him accountable for his shortcomings
     
  2. The Dark Knight

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    Great post. Exactly right. That is my stance on Sanchez too. Yet Jeti and others try to call me some crazy Sanchez supporter. I am just realistic. I don't feel it is time to give up on a 5th overall pick from 2009 yet. This is definitely his last chance in Green and White, but I think that is fair. He has clearly never been an elite QB yet, clearly was terrible in 2012 along with the rest of the team, but I still think he can succeed. If he can't or Geno is currently better than him, then he needs to hit the bench. Whatever is best for the Jets, should be done.
     
  3. Jeti

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    Sanchez supporter I never called you that

    It was a joke
     
  4. Frenbar

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    It's a complete strawman for Sanchez fanboys to say that those who don't like Sanchez blame all the Jets problems on him. Shotty was dog shit, just as bad as Sanchez. The Jets have had plenty of problems during the Sanchez era. All the Jets problems throughout the Sanchez era, however, are irrelevant to the point that Sanchez is total dog shit, even if they contributed to that fact. People who understand football aren't saying that Muck, "looked like dog shit" because of sub-par team play, they are saying that Sanchez played like dog shit. From starting one season in college, to being so dumb as to need color-coded plays, to his inability to throw short passes, to his happy feet, to his never hitting receivers in stride, to his double and tripping pumping, and, of course, the butt-fumble, the facts are, the guy just sucks. People who cry about how the Jets mishandled Sanchez, and how it wasn't his fault, are Sanchez fans, not Jet fans. I'm shedding no tears for Muck and the tens of millions of dollars he made off the Jets. It's time to stop embarrassing the team and the franchise, and cut Muck loose.
     
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  5. Diddy

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    The Person who tweeted that is a big fan of this Youtuber known as Elpresador, they are known as the "Militia". He is not a Jets fan, he is a Browns fan and one of the Biggest Trolls on Youtube.

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  6. Burnz

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    Stay Classy fans Stay classy
     
  7. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Your last two sentences are utterly non-sensical, unless the first half of tour post is Schotty support.

    If you took the time to understand the moronic aystem that Schotty runs, or the fact that Sanchez produced more scoring in that system than any other QB, you might grasp the obvious.

    While Sanchez fumbling problem is well documented, tell the class what other QB came CLOSE to putting up 32 scores in this offense? Not Favre.Not Pennington. not "career year 59 % comp rate" Bradford.

    You dont face 8 in the box, bc your QB sucks, you face 8 in the box, because Schotty either runs it, or has a 5 second 3 yard pass play, or goes outside the numbers (sometimes both).

    Low percentage pass plays, "power runs", plus long developing short pass plays = 8 in the box.
     
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  8. Swedish Ale

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    ^ This.

    Only that you forgot to mention his love for locking onto targets and his underwhelming decision making; where he just can't help himself from throwing into low-odds situations. Coz in his mind it's better to 'be aggressive' than simply throwing it away. It's extremely rare to see him make a failsafe throw where only his receiver can get it... you know, throws that a 8M+ QB should be able to make regularly...

    Sanchez struck such a goldmine when it was Rex who drafted him, who will refuse to give up on Mark and rather go down as a loyal pal rather than play someone who actually would provide the best chance to win.

    And it's so easy to see that it might just turn into the same old shit again...
    • 0-3 "Well it's a new system, Mark needs some time but he's looked amazing in practice"
    • 1-5 "I mean, look at that schedule, haha. I would dare anyone to come out of that one in good shape with a new system n all"
    • 4-8 "I can feel it, I really can. Mark has certainly proven to be a winner for us in the past and this is where I think we'll see the real Mark, when it's go time. I'm excited"
    • 5-11 "Obviously, you gotta give the opponent credit...
     
  9. laxin

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    Im sick and tired of those of you who defend Mark thinking you are the only ones who know football. You do realize that those who do not believe in Mark, are fully aware of his circumstances, right? Its not hard to see that the talent around him for the last year or so was pretty damn bad and the coaching was sub-par.

    What is so hard to understand that people just dont believe he can be a franchise QB anymore? History tells us that a career turn around is unlikely, and what he's shown on the field in the last two years support that even more so.

    Maybe its those that support Mark blindly that just dont know football...

    Until he proves he otherwise on the field, I think its unwarranted and undeserved for such support.
     
  10. BeastBeach

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    Nitwit fans, man.
     
  11. TNJet

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    Nope, but I like it though.
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    mark was the scapegoat the last 2 years. 2 years ago he shared it w/ Schottenheimer, last year it was all his fault we stunk. It's so bad now there are posters blaming Mark for Holmes' injury and other receivers getting injured.

    it's not blind support, we have seen him succeed and help our team win a lot of games including the most postseason games in franchise history by a Jets starting QB. No one is saying he will be great, we just don't want to throw him a way b/c he sucked w/ talent any QB would struggle with.
     
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    Junc, he means scapegoat within the organization, not the media.

    Can't deny that Mark has been coddled during his tenure with the Jets.
     
  14. fozzi58

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    I think for most us that support Sanchez (not suck his dick) that is pretty much the statement that sums it up.

    I for one do not think Sanchez will suddenly "get it" and be the next Manning. But getting the value out of the investment the team put in is worth hanging on to. If Nacho turns it around enough to be ranked 11-16 of the 32 QBs, that's enough of a jump, with this defense, to consistently be in the playoff race. If he can do that for two years it might be worth keeping him around a couple more with short term incentive laden contracts.
     
  15. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    so benching him doesn't scapegoat him at all?

    he may have been coddled early on as a rookie or even into year 2 but those days are LONG gone.
     
  16. The 1985er

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    so you're saying he shouldn't have been benched?
     
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    Please don't mention Skip Bayless -the man with the unabashed 'man crush' on Tim Tebow. This guy expects that Tebow will be the backup to Brady this season. Puhlease!!!
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    He deserved it, we needed to try something different but that is scapegoating him b/c he and any other QB in there had no chance.
     
  19. Hobbes3259

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    He had progressed in each of his first three years, putting up more PPG, under Schotty, and tossing more TDs, than any QB not named and SCORING more TDS than ANY QB under Schottenheimer.


    Ill post the link with the chart one more time.

    http://callingtheplay.blogspot.com/2012/01/what-about-schottenheimer.html

    Check the stats, find me anyone under Schotty putting up 32 scores.

    And, its helpful to also note, that the RedZone % is markedly better under Favre, and even more so under Moore.

    But hey...blame the worker, not the boss.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

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    He should have been benched at halftime in the Arizona Game.

    Look at the Rushing plays, in the last 20 minutes.
     
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