Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    If we had a real offensive coordinator Sanchez would be leading us to superbowls like Eli.
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Been thinking about the Sanchez years some more and it occurred to me that context *is* really important. This is true whether you think Sanchez was ever likely to be a good QB or not.

    What would Troy Aikman's career have been like if Emmitt Smith was 31 the year Aikman joined the Cowboys and gone a year later? What if the replacement for Emmitt Smith was Marcus Allen for one year and then gone? What if the next guy up at RB for the Cowboys was Lorenzo White?

    On the WR side, what would have happened if Michael Irvin went free agent after Aikman's 2nd season and the Cowboys signed Tim McGee as the replacement? Then filled with a couple of veterans at the end of their career?

    What would have happened to Aikman if the RT position suddenly became a hole in his 3rd season?

    Sanchez is nowhere near as good as Aikman was but the point I'm trying to make is that without a lot of natural 7's Aikman wasn't anywhere near as good as he turned out to be either.
     
  3. 1968jetsfan

    1968jetsfan Well-Known Member

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    What it really says is that you never draft a QB in the top half of the draft who only has the equivalent of 1 season starting under his belt, under 500 attempts in his college career. Sanchez looked decent and put up decent numbers his sophomore season but the year before on a little over 100 attempts he looked piss poor.

    He had no established track record in football and should have been viewed as a prospect. QB is the one position in football where just having the physical tools isn't even close to being enough. You need to see a track record of more than one season to gauge a guy by, especially when you have an offense in college where the players are far above the competition and especially avoid drafting QB's from a system where the most accomplished alumni in the schools history at QB are Carson Palmer, Matt Leinert and Matt Cassel.
     
  4. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Well-Known Member

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    A good QB can exponentially elevate the play of everyone around him, I don't know how anyone can dispute that. Respectively, good coordinators, wide-receivers and RB's can have the same effect on an average QB. That being said, if you asked a thousand people to choose between the two, every one of them would go with the QB. It's the most critical position in professional sports.

    Point being, Sanchez is never gonna be that guy. He performed adequately, and in same cases, impressed during those two runs, but he's been below average, at best, the last couple. It's time for a change, and as a Jets fan who will spend 16 Sundays glued to the couch regardless of who the QB is, I'd much rather watch one that we have no idea about, but has potential, than one whose best games as a Jet are most likely two years removed.
     
  5. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    He has to stop turning the ball over especially inside the redzone. There are no more excuses for it. Protect the football as a meaning of life or death. If its not there punt and play defense. No more throwing into coverage hoping for a lucky grab, it's awful to watch.
     
  6. johnnysd

    johnnysd Well-Known Member

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    I never really show the potential in Sanchez. My only rationalization for him was that he seemed better in 2 min situations so I blamed Schotty a lot. But Sanchez never struck me as a potential franchise guy I was always a little confused what I was missing about him. No touch, no accuracy,no composure and like I said earlier the complete myth of him "winning" playoff games.
     
  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    And the Jets knowing what they do shouldn't have much interest in seeing another year of that if they have someone else waiting in the wings who is ready to play.

    Sanchez keeps doing the same stupid things. Why would anyone want to continue down that path? Enough already. Let some other team deal with that shit if they think they can polish that turd.

    Non Sequitur ... the Jets have 3 practices between now and the first preseason game. Sanchez is scheduled to run with the ones for the first 2. I guess that means that Geno, just by chance because of the schedule of course, will run with the ones on Friday?

    A solid outing by Geno vs. the ones and another Sanchez shit show should be enough to make a decision IMO. No point in delaying the inevitable any further.
     
  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    At some point soon one of the QB's has to make a clearly positive push on the job. If that QB is not Sanchez then the Jets should go with Smith, even if he's still looking a bit rough. The young guy they can teach and maybe polish some of the rough spots on and generally build something. The vet is a lost case if he's still looking the way Sanchez does right now.
     
  9. ArmandJ

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    End the nightmare and start Smith
     
  10. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, hes won playoff games, put up 32 scores operating, under....shit conditions.
     
  11. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    The problem was that the players that they brought in didn't pan out. Greene was supposed to be the bellcow but he was nothing more than a goal line rusher at best. Wayne Hunter played well at the end of 2010 and the playoffs, then he turned into a turnstile in 2011. They thought they could get by with Holmes and Keller while they draft young receivers and bring in band aids to cover up any weaknesses until a young receiver was ready. Then most of all they thought Sanchez would have been able to stabilize the offense while they rebuild. Of course everything backfired.
     
  12. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    When Smith is throwing bombs against Tampa Bay, will you still defend Sanchez?
     
  13. slimjasi

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    Fantastic post. If there is one thing I will take away from my time as a somewhat frequently posting member of this message board, it is that the pure, unadulterated idiocy of delusional Sanchez Stans knows no bounds.
     
  14. Acad23

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    Hobbes...did you find it at all ironic that Geno Smith needed to work on his footwork/dropback when taking snaps from under center, yet it was Sanchez who tripped over his own feet while doing just that during the Green White scrimmage?

    Smith continues to impress, while Sanchez continues to depress...
     
  15. NYGalPal

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    Random note: I flipped on Jets Nation: Inside camp and the first thing I saw was Mark Sanchez stumbling backwards and falling down. :lol:
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    it's hysterical how when he has a good practice it means nothing but if he has an INT or something happens it means he sucks. we have such a sad, pathetic fan base. I feel bad for the people in your lives.
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I'll address this nonsense later but once again you guys show how little you know by posting blind stats and rankings. It's embarrassing how little some of you guys know.

    I have addressed this nonsense numerous times but reading is not a friend of the sanchez bashers, all they want to do is post stats/rankings w/o context as if this tells us everything we need to know but to help those of you that continue to struggle w/ basic reading comprehension I will tear apart this nonsense again later today.
     
  18. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    Haha Junc is feeling that this is his last stand for Sanchez. He's now resorting to unprovoked personal attacks because Sanchez can't avoid tripping over his own two feet.
     
  19. Section 227. Row 5

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    Those "blind stats and rankings" support a pretty compelling argument. The rebuttal better be damned good.
     
  20. laxin

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    Get of your high horse junc. I'm sure your no godsend.

    You are going to judge people's lives and pity them because they want to move on from a QB that hasn't improved in 3 years? While there's a young QB showing that he is at least on a similar level as that 5th year vet? Please, give me a break.
     
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