Ideally he would be in the slot with his quick change of direction. Based on what we currently have, he would be the starting flanker on this roster. That's why we need more proven options. Let players maximize their skill set for the appropriate position instead of forcing a round peg Ina square hole.
Every area on offense is a question. Will Holmes recover from his injury & be the player he was Will Hill take a step forward in his 2nd season & be someone who can be counted on What does Winslow have left in the tank & after him, what can the others offer What is to RB situation going to be like,is Bush going to play, is Ivory able to live up to being "the man", is Powell going to show more in his 2nd season as a starter. Will Mark rise to the occasion and show he can be a good QB in this league With all this we either have the potential to surprise a lot of people or sink like a rock in the ocean.
Too many what ifs IMO in the offensive side if the ball. This organization choose its identity the day Rex Ryan was hired, we were going to invest the majority of our resources. (Both financial and via the draft) on the defensive side if the ball. I am ok with that as long as the offense is not starved of adequate talent (as I believe it has been). What happens is you negate the dominance the Jets could have on Defense as they need to now spend more time on the field (it's subtraction by addition). It will be interesting to see who else the Jets add during TC cuts in the receiving department, if not it will be another long year for the Defense...
Well, that's for sure. But that doesn't mean the Jets O won't be better. I think there are 4 areas where we can expect the Jets to improve even though we don't have them as a sure thing. OC: Sparano out, Mohrningweg in. Anyone want to argue this one? Marty is a known quantity in the NFL. Will get more out of the same personnel than we got last year. QB: In a perfect world, Gino lights it up and the Jets never look back. Not very likely. Best for Jets is for Sanchez to start, vastly reduce his turnovers and manage the game. That gives Gino a year (with some cameo appearances) to learn the NFL. If Sanchez can accomplish the above, then the Jets take a big step from a bad O to an average O. If Sanchez is hurt or fails to improve, we have a credible backup in Smith...but then this will not be a likely area of improvement. OL: Slauson and Ducasse played about the same. Moore (a Jet whom I respected) hasn't been offered a contract by any NFL team. Ducasse is not a shoo in to make the team. I think this says the Jets will have better OG play this year. Austin Howard should be a little better based on the added experience. If 1 of the rookies surprises, then we have some upside. Colon is an injury risk. RB: I thought the issue with Greene was that he was very 1 dimensional. McKnight never seemed able to play the 3rd down back. Made the Jets easy to defend. Ivory and Goodson appear to be a much more versatile tandem than Greene and McKnight. Powell was a pleasant surprise last year and may well continue his development this year. Overall a significant improvement. Receiving: Pretty grim, but not worse than last year. So, while there are no sure things, there are several areas where optimism is reasonable. Again. Nobody thinks we are looking at a Denver/NE offense. But we might move into the middle 1/3 of the league in production. When you pair that with a D that should be a top 1/3 unit--and maybe a lot better than that as the year progresses and the new players gain experience, the Jets seem a lot better than last year. 8-8 seems a reasonable prediction. If things go better, then may we have a 9-10 game season and sneak into the playoffs--but again the "over" is not likely. And a lot of pieces will be in place for 2014
I agree will this post except for the part about the receivers (the topic if this thread too). The receiving core is grim and just as bad as last year, unless you consider Ben Obanumue an upgrade over Chaz Schillins? Sign TO, sign Ocho, sign Bray and keep the best 5. If ohcho and TO want to sign they must be willing to play ST
I think the receiving core actually improves this year, by a fair margin. Holmes played in 4 games last year, and even with the injury, I'd say most people would take the over on him playing more than 4 games this year. Hill missed 6 games last year, and in the games he did play, he was ignored by Sanchez half the time. I think he does improve with his route ability atleast this year, even if his hands aren't upto par right now. Watching him last year, he was very deliberate with his cuts and breaks, so if he could sharpen that up somewhat, he should be open more often. But this is something I don't know if he has corrected or if it's still a problem, but I assume it's not going to get worse. Kerley was good last year and showed that he could be a nice slot option. He also benefits from the WCO because it suits a slot guy's route tree better than outside WRs. So from our top three WRs, I think we'll get more from 2 of them, and Kerley is the least concerning of them all, so his production shouldn't drop. Other improvements: Keller barely played with only 5 games, and the combination of Winslow and Cumberland should be able to aptly replace his production, if not exceed it. The wildcard being Hayden Smith here, because people seem to be raving about him in camp this year. If we could legitimately have two tight ends that can atleast be a threat to the defense, it'd go a long way to open up lanes for RBs and WRs. TE should be one of those spots we actually improve in this year, because there was basically nothing there last year from Keller. We also get an upgrade in receivers out of the backfield, as anyone with hands is an improvement over Greene. Both Ivory and Goodson (and even Powell) should be better at getting catches out of the backfield and with screens. I don't know where I saw the stat (most likely here), but I read that Greene was the back that saw the most loaded boxes because teams just refused to respect our passing attack. But if we can send our RBs out on screens, have better play from our TEs, then every aspect of the offense improves in a trickle down effect. I also like that, as of now, we have our choices for the 4th and 5th WR spots. Someone like Rogers and Davis offer upside, while someone like Obomanu can be a bit more reliable. Last year, we were left to pick up WRs off the street and then throw them into our starting lineups because of all the injuries. All in all, I think it's safe to say we should improve this year barring some kind of catastrophic injury wave. However, all is moot if our QB play doesn't improve. You figure, Sanchez can't be as bad as he was last year, but I'm not sure he's ever going to be at the head of a good offense in the NFL unless he was given the pro-bowl roster. However, Smith does offer a very good backup option for us, that has potential, so atleast there is hope that someone can be decent if Sanchez struggles, unlike last year. I'm somewhat optimistic about the offense this year being better than what many predict it to be, but it has to fight off some injury woes and need one of the QBs to actually be decent.
Two unknown guys who will either make the team or be on the PS. #85 - Ryan Spadola (rookie - undrafted) #83 - KJ Stroud (rookie - undrafted) I really want us to bring back Edwards, he would be league minimum and Sanchez works good with him.
It's a whole lot of yuck IMO. Combine that with our QB situation and.... As you can see, I've set the bar really low for this season.
Rome was not built in a day. The offensive shortcomings were fairly obvious by the end of last season.The coaching was poor as was the player personnel in terms of speed/explosion,competition,depth & proven productivity. The new regime addressed some of those issues this offseason by upgrading speed,creating more competition, & improving depth on the OL as well as at RB. It's clearly not a finished product & will likely take at least another offseason to field a truly dynamic legit offense. If the WR corps this year is Kerley, Hill & Gates so be it. For one, all 3 players are young & have potential. Secondly we need to see what all 3 of them can produce when called upon. Yes, there will be growing pains. But if even 2/3 of them blossom into legit players we'll have a nucleus in which to build the rest of our passing game around.
I agree completely. Those guys could be the nucleus moving forward, but we don't really know where their ceiling is unless we let them play. It could hurt or they could surprise. At the same time, we need to shed contracts (Holmes) and avoid the temptation to sign veteran names (I'm talking about Braylon here). Those older guys won't be around when this ship starts to right itself.
What would be so wrong with signing Edwards to a 1 season, low money contract this year? It's a cheap bandaid to help us get through the year. This isn't a Super Bowl run kind of year. I just don't want to be embarrassed.
im hoping marty has got his eye on somebody that he thinks can be serviceable in the case that holmes is not ready to go. i think hes too good a coordinator to overlook that kind of shit, and idzik seems like hes the type to listen to his coaches if they say they need help at receiver bad
band aid what? signing edwards delays the procees of finding young wr's with futures in this league. if we were a contender who needed some depth than yea,sign him now. but its better to rotate as many young wr's with potential into camp and hope we can uncover a gem. we have to look to the future(something tanny never did) and bray isn't in it
Just read this article on Laurent Robinson who is trying to make a come back. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...t-robinson-seeks-team-despite-concussion-woes Is he worth a one or two year, low risk deal? He just turned 28 so he's not old and he did well with the Cowboys in 2011. Worst case scenario he gets another concussion and is done (horrible for him, not much of a loss for us), and we lose out on Vet min or close to it. Best case scenario we get a solid #2 or #3 receiver that might be able to fill in for Holmes at first. Compared to whats out there, I cant see him being a bad option. He presents low risk, and pretty good potential. Bottom line, we need some help at WR BIG TIME. At this point, the only receiver that I can be confident in, is Kerley... and he's had his fair share of nicks. Unless we explore the trade route, Id definitely be for this.
I don't know how accurate this guy is but according to this article the Jets are gonna bring in a few WR's on Monday. http://thejetsblog.com/nyjets/jets-working-out-wrs-monday/
He played well for Dallas a couple of seasons ago when Miles Austin was dealing with the hamstring. Can't hurt to bring him in I guess.
