Even if Holmes isn't 100% he's still better than any WR we had last year. Kerley won't be our #1 option this year Hill is in year 2 an OC who knows about passing offense will be running the show Chaz Schilens won't be starting and we should have a run game to take pressure off the pass game. I am not saying we'll be the '98 Jets offense but I expect a MUCH better offense- at least mediocre.
Armand, i hate to say it, but thats a bad argument. Be it Football, or Baseball, its a QB duel, or a Pitchers duel. It just is what it is.
I will be shocked if the offense finishes above 20th. Shocked. Holmes is gonna be out longer than everyone is bargaining for and we still have seriously flawed players at all skill positions, especially QB.
I think around 20th would be a nice jump. As long as it isn't awful and we can move the ball a bit it will be a major leap. We'll see, I hope Holmes isn't out longer than expected. I don't expect 2010 holmes but his presence should help.
right now i am optimistic about holmes being ready. i think he is playing this up to make him look good when he comes back before everyone expects him too. as far as predicting the offense ranking, anything better than 20th and we will push for a playoff spot and is doable but top 15 i think is way to optimistic
Huh? They feature the star players...whatever position they play. Except kickers of course. Brady & Manning just happen to be the face of the franchise. Tell me you never saw a promo featuring Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher.
I talk about Rodgers, Eli, Ryan, and Sanchez. You talk about Peyton Manning. Closer games just magnifies the plays the QB has no effect on. Don't you say the Patriots defense didn't give Brady a fair shot in the 2 SB losses to Eli? Don't you complain about the forward momentum and Kyle Williams and David Tyree on Eli's 2 SB runs? Don't you complain about our defense not giving our offense another a shot down 5 points vs Pitt? The closer the game, the more non QB plays are magnified. It's why Cundiff, Norwood, Vinateri, Kyle Williams, Doug Brien, Vanderjagt, David Tyree all go down in NFL playoff history for better or for worse. These kickers and role players end up deciding games because the score is so close and teams are so close. The phrase Any Given Sunday (or Saturday, Monday, THursday and sometimes Wednesday) is so popular in the NFL. So much is left outside of the QBs hands, it why the best QBs don't win the SB every year or are successful in the playoffs every year. Look at Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers' 4th best regular season in his 5 full regular seasons, he won the SB that year (2010). In all other years, 3 of them he was one of the best QBs in the league, he went 1-4 in the playoffs. His one win was against a Vikings team that had their backup QB playing. Tom Brady's 3 best regular seasons (07, 10, 12). 3-3 overall in the playoffs. Regular season record those combined 3 years, 42-6. He threw for 120 TDs and 20 INTs those 3 years. IN the playoffs, 12 TDs, 6 INTS. You could go on and on, and recently for QBs, this is the trend. Everyone likes to say you need an "elite" QB to win the SB, but Peyton and Brees were probably the only 2 established QBs who were regarded highly and then won their SB. Brady was not considered elite for his first 2 or 3rd. Brad Johnson, no. Big Ben, not for his 1st one. Eli, not for either one. Flacco, nope. Rodgers, not when he won the SB. I look at that as not just coincidences, but more that when you play closer games in the playoffs, it magnifies the other parts of your team that you could hide in the regular season playing the Browns, Rams, and etcs of the league. I agree. I think Sanchez wasn't as good as those runs the Jets teams went on in 09 and 10, and he wasn't as bad as the Jets went last year in 6-10 and having to replace him. The problem is, we have no idea what to expect from him. The talent level of the Jets on paper is closer to the 2011 and 2012 teams than the 09 and 10 teams. An argument of why Sanchez looks so bad is because of the lack of talent around him. Well, unless all our question marks pan out on offense, he's going or Geno's going into 2013 with a lack of talent.
Have we addressed the OL this year? If not, then it's safe to say Sanchez will definitely fail us, again.
Rex has handed the job to his guy Sanchez. A very raw rookie is his only competition. McElroy will not be given a chance. Who is kidding who? Sanchez is our starter!
They sure did; in fact, the prospects look real good. Just, it will take some time. They won't be ready by this coming year - that's for sure. Jets drafted Winters, Aboushi and Campbell, with UDFA Dalton Freeman impressing the coaching staff. [Jets have two more UDFA in Popek and Gilleo, but they will probably get cut.] It is highly likely that, given proper coaching, they will phase out the Austin Howards and Willie Colons of this team in due time. The OL will be young and sturdy again. =============================================== Last, but not the least: Sanchez did suck - and he sucked real bad. But I don't think it is fair to give him the lion's share of the blame. As I realized, Jets didn't have enough draft picks to restock the aging roster. And then Sparano tagged along - a disaster waiting to happen, in other words. This team lacks impact players on both sides of the ball - they do have some, but they don't have enough. Sanchez's colossal struggle last year is a testament to the lack of talent on the roster. [And the last minute choke of the defense - yeah, they were devoid of that blue chip talent that could put and end to the drive, and then there was Sanchez.] Now we get to see the profound effect - and legacy - Tannenbaum has left behind. It's a good thing that Idzik 1. doesn't treat draft picks lightly and 2. doesn't flinch at every move like a scared little bitch that Tannenbaum was. Since the team still lacks impact players in some impact areas (Safeties/OLBs/TE to name a few) it is going to be probably another year or two before this team starts playing a good football on all phases. Sanchez's contract will run its courses by that time - and he will probably get shitcanned. Pretty unfair - but that's how it is going to be at this rate.
didnt peyton manning get injured the other year and the team he had led to the playoffs for what 10 straight season end up going 1-15? yes yes he had AMAZING talent.
Peyton Manning is the best QB of the last decade by a significant margin. Drew Brees is the best QB of the last half decade. Tom Brady is the second best QB of the last decade and Aaron Rodgers is the second best QB of the last 5 years. We are blessed, or cursed in the case of Brady, with some fine QB's at this point and a rules system designed to really show them off.
I think Winters ends up getting the nod. They were very high on him and King Ugly has not showed a thing.
This guy is still trying to play football? And the Jets are actually giving him a chance to start AGAIN? Jesus Christ.
I agree, he's awful but if there's one team sanchez has dominated it's the bills. Suck on that for a while.
This post encapsulates how dumb and stupid this fan base can be. 1. As for the Colts, when Peyton sat out, they were 10-win team at best even with Peyton on board. 2. Their modus operandi was, let Peyton build lead, then once the offense builds up 2 possession lead, the defense would go after the QB. They didn't care much about rushing defense from the get-go. Dungy never liked big, bulky and slow guys - he always favored small and fast guys, and he always preached on gang-tackling. He could take this approach because he had such a phenomenal QB playing for him. 3. So when Peyton was out, the receiving talents were still there. The blockers were still there. Just the signal caller wasn't there. As for the defense, the pass rushers were still there in their respective prime. Just, their pass rushing prowess was not to be utilized, as they were mostly playing catch-up that season. [That's how they built the team; Tom Moore admittedly said this in an interview: Q: Why don't you give your backup QBs any practice reps? A: Look. If #18 goes down, we are fucked anyway. And we don't practice fucked.] Once the offense could not build comfortable 2 possession lead, that expanded the horizon in terms of what the defense had to cover now, in the form of ground game. 4. It is not even like Peyton's Colts were the almighty beat-all winning machine either. When the opposing offense featured powerful rushing attack along with stymieing defense , Peyton's Colts didn't fare well. Hell, Ron Dayne once ran wild on their defense on route to the Texans win. [Texans went 6-10 that season.]
A little random to say here, but agreed. He's the player I'm most excited for, an easy 1k yards if healthy all year, maybe a few hundred more, all exciting in execution. Sanchez stopped being his guy after that Tennessee game. He had this terribly betrayed face on him. To me it just screamed "I vouched for you, gave you another chance and this is how you repay me?" Ryan is done with unyielding confidence for him, and no he hasn't handed him the job. if anything he's left "his guy" on the thinest of ice sheets, one screw up and he gets replaced by Smith and is permanently done in NY. and G-Mac might be losing out to Simms of all people, its not like he's been doing aces since his start last year. Enough of this "Ryan has made up his mind" garbage, he'll move on if he feels it'll put his team and his job in jeopardy to continue with him. You're an ignorant dumbass or at best a troll. You know damn well why the jets are still working with him. What are they going to do? cut him have no money to do anything else? just to be rid of a guy you're paying for anyway? a guy that had early success and you can cut easy next year if that doesn't return? and he'll be playing football next year to by the way, if not on the Jets than backing up some other shmo elsewhere. Now go away and stop making me defend Sanchez!
How has he "dominated" the Bills? In all the games vs. the Bills he averages 180 yds/game, with a 53% completion percentage, 11 tds and 9 int, and an overall rating of 73. If that's Sanchez "dominating" then I think you just made my point. Sanchez is the worst fucking QB in the league and its an embarrassment he's even in consideration to start. The Jets drafted Geno, why not just roll with him? We already know what Sanchez is gonna offer you, and that's shit. Just move on already. And if Geno isn't ready, at least go with McElroy or someone you aren't already certain will fail. Starting Sanchez makes no sense.
