Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    haha useless thread prevention 101... thats a classic
     
  2. displacedfan

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    Yep, it works very well in that job
     
  3. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez is a dick.
     
  4. ConcordeChops

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    My quarterback.
     
  5. feldspar

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    Listen to you..."SANCHEZ put up 32 scores." Did that single-handedly, didn't he? With the help of a Guard?

    I'm a big fan of Chad Pennington. The Jets basically lived and died on his health issues for years, really, which is somewhat unfortunate. Pennington had one more TD than INTs in his one full year under Schotty. As other people have pointed out (and you continue to ignore) is the fact that this has happened to him before on the stat sheet. He threw one more TD than INTs in another season WITHOUT Schotty too. Why are you ignoring this fact? Because it doesn't fit into your invention? He also threw one more INT than TDs TWICE in years he only played 3 games. Yeah, just blame Schotty mindlessly. You are only fooling yourself, nobody else.

    And Bradford absolutely had his best year last year...no question. Your little bogus theory that Schotty's scheme breeds INTs falls apart again. Bradford threw 21 TDs as opposed to 13 INTs last year, the best TD-to-INT ratio BY FAR in any season of his career thus far. You are hanging by a thread with your line of reasoning here, projecting things you wish were true in a futile attempt to defend your boy. No way around that...or, as you like to say: :rofl:

    Sanchez is on the hot seat for good reasons which are entirely his fault. Bottom line. Maybe you should start blaming the QB coach or something. David Lee coached up Ryan Fitzpatrick in Buffalo for a year too...the year right before they were both shit-canned.
     
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    Hobbes M.O. is to ignore the facts that contradict his position. Then he will claim he is game to all arguments but only jump on the arguments he deems as easy targets.

    He still is yet to respond to the arguments that show Sanchez' red zone ranking in 2011 as subject to random aberration. He beats that stupid Tom Moore drum till the cows come home.

    He makes blanket statements that, when pressed, are full of shit. He has asserted on occasion that Tom Brady is only as good as he is due to his OC and that teams were correct to pass on him till the 6th round, and has also asserted when pressed, that his self-esteem is derived from how well his team is doing. That said, it is no surprise that he will not yield to arguments about the shittiness of his QB. Because to do so would be to yield to his own life being shitty.

    Take that as a cautionary tale as to what happens when you allow sports to effect your life too much.
     
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    It's really mind boggling. I don't care if he wants to blame Schotty but come up with a better example than Pennington.

    Hobbes knows Pennington threw 13 TDs and 12 Ints in 2003 in just 10 games under the same OC he threw for 22 TDs and only 6 ints. Project the 2003 Ints through 16 games and it is 19 Ints. Hmm! Drastically different numbers under the same OC. You would think that fact would clue Hobbes in but he just ignores it and repeats the same argument a few posts later.

    Hobbes knows that Pennington was coming off two major shoulder surgeries to his rotator cuff but ignores that as well.

    Hobbes knows that Sam Bradford was +8 TD to Int ratio compared to +3 his rookie year but a +5 difference in Hobbes mind is basically a repeat of his rookie year. :rolleyes:

    BTW Hobbes you do know that Schotty was the QB coach in SD the year Brees led the team to a 12-4 regular season record, completing 65.5% of his passes for 3,159 yards, with 27 touchdowns to only 7 interceptions with a 104.8 passer rating, right?

    Brees was selected to the 2004 NFL Pro Bowl with Schotty as his QB coach and was named 2004 NFL Comeback Player of the Year just like Pennington was in 2006.
     
  8. Acad23

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    I love the way Hobbes mixes fact & fantasy.

    Premier talent...that's a hoot.

    The only thing "premier" about Sanchez is his paycheck.

    He's got to start earning it.
     
  9. abyzmul

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    I get it now... Hobbes is actually a huge Geno Smith fan, and has devised a brilliant plan to get every Jets fan on the internet to commit fully to Geno Smith starting out of spite of his overtly retarded crusade of terrible, Tebotistic arguments in favor of Sanchez.

    Gotta hand it to you, Hobbesy, very effective method.

    Worked on me. I am now in favor of Mark Sanchez never playing in another NFL game for the rest of his life. Even though I had some hope for him previously.
     
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    I just can't wait until the preseason so we can (hopefully) end this debate.
     
  11. Steve032

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    I think momentum is important, but much moreso in the opposite way you are talking about. I agree, in a sense, that teams will get over "giving up a touchdown" or whatever fairly quickly, and it shouldn't affect them too much.

    However, I think when a team gains momentum, be it from a turnover, sack, whatever: it affects the team and noticeably ups their game.

    I don't know if you've ever played football competitively, but I know after I made a big play, or even a teammate made a big play, it affected me individually. It's hard to explain, but you get this intense feeling and are able to go from 100% to 110%. It is a thing and it does affect the game.

    Why do you think a team scores a TD the first play after a turnover so often?


    Sorry for the poorly worded sentences and grammar. I hate typing on an iPad.
     
  12. TNJet

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    Get real, 2003 was the season he rushed back from an injury to his left wrist.

    So, now ots the Schoddy defense force riding to the rescue.

    Ya gotta love it.


    I ackowledged Brees 4th year. I said, "maybe Scotty just needed one more year" :rofl:

    (of course, it is entirely possible, Brees finally learned to ignore him, after three long years :wink:)
     
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    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    I like Smith.

    I think, If MM gets out of Sanchez what I think he will, and Sanchez can hold Smith off till the last uear of his rookie deal, (which is really decision time for the Jets) that Smith can be special.

    Part of the issue I have with the retarded get Geno in now, is i think he can be very good, but today, i dont think hes better than Sanchez, so why go out of the way to ruin the guy...

    With a competently managed offense Sanchez can get you to 10 or better every year. And with so many young high draft picks spent on defense, when you turn the eye to the skill positions, next year, and the year after, as Sanchez nears the end of his contract you'll have a younger guy, thats already polished.

    (which also carries long term cap implications) you want to resign Smith long term, before other teams are looking to bid for him? Or deal with him without having seen substantial playing time, most GMs are not likely to forget Matt Flynn,especially of he sucks in Oakland! Scott Mitchell anyone?)


    Sanchez,Smith > than any other possible combination, given our roster. Its that simple.
     
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  16. alleycat9

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    i didnt realize smith signed a contract.

    i think waiting until before his final year of whatever his rookie deal is would be a mistake. that would probably be quite a few years too. you either shit or get off the pot in the nfl. you cant just wait around because it would be nice. thats a mediocre defeatist attitude. well we will be pretty good every year. fuck that mess, get a guy who can win a superbowl.

    or are you talking about sanchos rookie deal? he is already on his second deal so i am not sure what you are talking about.
     
  17. Br4d

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    Smith hasn't signed a deal yet. One of the best scenarios for Sanchez to start this year and keep his job is if Smith holds out and is very late to sign his contract. That would be the Philip Rivers sitting for two seasons after he was drafted because he held out before his rookie camp and let Brees get his hands firmly on the job scenario.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    This is easily the most level-headed and reasonable post I have read from you in months.

    Thank you for that, although I still am not sold that Mark Sanchez is simply an OC away from top tier performance. Maybe going into 2011, but things happened during that season that cracked my confidence that he can return to the form that he showed in the two previous playoff runs.

    But that is my opinion, and I'd love to be wrong.
     
  19. blackssmagic

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    Hobbes or anyone else, why should the Jets pay Mark 8+ million a year when Geno will make no more than 1.5-2.0 million a year for very similar performance. Save the money and get Geno a tightend and wideout next year and get the D an OlB and safety between the draft and free agency
     
  20. Acad23

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    Because Sanchez is a "premier talent".
     
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