Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    there is no chance of that happening. Bellicheck took on tebow because tebow can help a team... and unlike the morons that run this team, bill brought him in to put him in situations to help, not to grab headlines or sell preseason tickets.

    what is annoying is, it will probably work. he wont trot tebow out on first and 1 and have him run straight for 2 yards. he will bring him in on 3rd and 1 or 4th and inches or 3rd and goal and have him run straight for 2 yards, where 2 yards will actually make a difference.

    he will use him as a punt protecter like we did, which had an enormous positive impact for us(several very key fake conversions and the leagues best net punt average for team accounting for a tebow fake).

    he will find ways to get him on the field for either trick plays or to create and exploit some kind of mismatch.

    tebow will never be a legit NFL starting QB, but he can absolutely make a big positive impact with 10-15 plays a game between special teams and offense.

    im going to vomit when the pats are 1st in the league in short yardage conversion, scoring on the goalline and net punt average.
     
  2. Testaverde

    Testaverde Active Member

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    I don't know if the 2008 schedule was much tougher, but it certainly wasn't much easier than 2009 like you have been saying.

    The 2008 Patriots won 11 games because Matt Cassell played very well for them. They only missed the playoffs because of a tie breaker. Miami only won 1 game in 2007 and haven't won close to 11 since 2008, but there is more to that than the schedules. Pennington only played a full season in 2008 and never did again. They have had crap at QB since. That is a much bigger reason than the schedule.

    You also try and dismiss one of the playoff teams in 2008 because they were 8-8, but they made it to the divisional round of the playoffs. The Cards made it to the Super Bowl and Tennessee lost in the divisional round by 3 points to the Super Bowl champs. The only weak playoff team was Miami who we split with during the regular season. They swept us in 2009.

    In 2009, we only faced 2 playoff teams that tried to win against us. One was the Tom Brady playoff team that got embarrassed by Bal in the Wild card round. And the other was NO who won the Super Bowl.

    The other 2 were Indianapolis and Cincinnati who could care less about getting a win against us.

    So if you use your eyes you can see that the 2008 playoff teams we faced were much better than the 2009 playoff teams we faced. I think your hatred for Favre and love for Sanchez prevents you from doing what you tell others to do. Lol!!
     
  3. Testaverde

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    I know! He had 3 against SD which were passes of 3,4 and 3 yards and had another 3 against Buff. That's 6 RZ TD passes in 2 games against really bad defenses.
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    2008 Pats against playoff teams:
    L Miami 38-13
    L @ SD 30-10
    L @ Ind 18-15
    W @ Mia 48-28
    L Pitt 33-10
    W Ari 47-7

    Only wins were against weak Miami and Arizona who was crushed in 3 NE games and rested starters that day.

    That 8-8 team crushed us, a year later we went to SD when they were the hottest team in the NFL and we beat them in the div rd.

    Ari made the SB but they were not a good reg season team and a terrible road team.

    We played 5 games against playoff teams that tried to win against us.

    WATCH the games PLEASE.
     
  5. Barcs

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    What are the chance of the Jets signing Tavaris Jackson? He was recently cut by the Bills, and I'd gladly welcome more competition at QB. Emmanuel seems to be their guy.
     
  6. Testaverde

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    :lol: Those are the games they lost ALL YEAR and all of them were playoff teams. Sorry, they lost to the Jets in OT as well. So they lost to 1 non playoff team a Super Bowl champion, a team that advanced to the divisional round and 2 WC teams.

    In 2009 they lost 3 games to teams that didn't even make the playoffs. When they made the playoffs by winning less games than they did in 2008, they got blown out by the Ravens in the WC round. NE wasn't very good in 2009. LOL at 5 playoff teams trying to beat us in 2009.

    WATCH the games PRETTY PLEASE!!
     
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  7. gopats88

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    The Colts started Curtis Painter as a rookie against you guys, and you are trying to make it sound like it wasn't an easy victory (or at least should have been)? This is the same guy who, with two years more experience in 2011, went 0-8 and has never made it onto an NFL roster since.

    Saying that the Jets had a whole season's worth of matchups that easy in 2008 is one of the most ridiculous claims you have ever made.

    Edit: okay, I forgot that Peyton started the game, but still...
     
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  8. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    I see you follow the team closely :rofl:

    (psssst...what did the Jets do differently in 2011, for the Red Zone specifically)

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/9298/rex-jets-credit-moore-for-red-zone-turnaround

    File this quote in the No Shit Sherlock file.

    .

    Ya Think? :rofl2:

    You guys can thank me for the laugh after you stop pissing in your pants.
     
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  9. tank75

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    i see that red zone efficiency for the season now means number of touchdowns scored throughout the season? and not the percentage of times the team scored when they were in the redzone for the whole season? scoring a bunch in two games isnt gonna skew your efficiency ratings if you dont hit shit the rest of the season
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    One of those teams was 8-8 in the worst division in football, they got to host a WC game against a choker.

    NE wasn't great in 2009 but it's funny how we take away credit from the Jets for playing a team resting starters but NE did the same in 2009 which resulted in 1 less win(again against a weaker sched). NE 2010 would have crushed NE 2008 simply b/c of the best QB in the game- someone we didn't have to worry about in 2008.

    It's mind boggling that people pay so much attention to this game and just have no idea what they are watching.

    The Colts starters played 2 1/2 qtrs. and held just a 5 pt lead.

    the 2008 sched was a complete joke. Our 2010 team would have won 15 games, our 2009 team would have won 12.
     
  11. tank75

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    its funny that no matter how many times the team and media reports tom moore being brought in to bolster the red zone offense people still ignore his presence and what an actual quarterback minded coach did for sanchez's game

    just sayin

    sanchez has played badly but not nearly as bad as people are making it seem. i dont think hes as good as some of you are saying on here, but he has a shot to turn it around and the talent is there. he just needs to get consistent.
     
  12. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Which has been my pro Sanchez argument all along.

    Right coach/System.....Player.

    Its the Steve Young argument. You would need to be pretty worthless for Tampa Bay to move on.
    Bill Walsh gets him, and he becomes .....Steve Young.


    For Better or Worse, MM will show us what Sanchez is.
     
  13. Testaverde

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    :rofl2: That choking team that SD beat to make the divisional round could have gone undefeated in the 2009 regular season and made the Super Bowl.

    NE resting starters that resulted in a loss? Are you talking about the Houston game? :lol: Brady played on all but 2 drives. NE lost to 3 teams that didn't make the playoffs in 2009. NE got crushed by 3 scores against Bal in the WC game. That is all we need to know about how good they were in 2009. Why are you comparing 2010 NE to 2008 NE? It is about 2008 and 2009.

    It is mind boggling! You clearly have no idea what you are watching.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    You know 2008 and 2009 were different seasons, right? you know the Chargers in 2009 were a top team as was Indy but in 2008 neither was.

    NE didn't take the game seriously, if they needed to win it they would have. You know they were down a TD when they took Brady out, right? that screams like a team trying to win to take out Brady down a TD.

    where did I bring up NE 2010?
     
  15. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    So glad this was pointed out. What young thriving QB today doesn't have decent offensive coaching?
     
  16. Testaverde

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    Oh, 2008 and 2009 were different seasons? It isn't all
    about the schedules? :rolleyes:

    You are so full of crap! You pretend NE rested starters and then say they would have won if they needed to yet defend the Jets win against the Colts when they actually rested starters and could care less about winning.:rofl2:

    They took Brady out when they were down 7 with 1:47 left in the game. He played the entire 2nd half when NE was outscored 21-7. The game was decided with Brady and the starters on the field. You are really reaching here.

    Am I struggling with the reading or the comprehension? That looks like you wrote 2010 NE to me.

    By the way we split with NE in 2008 without Brady and split with NE in 2009 with him at QB.
     
  17. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    If we had even had decent offensive coaching, we would be light years ahead.

    Wilson, Bevell by way of Green Bay, Minnesota

    RG 3, Shanadouche and son.

    Luck, Arians.

    And the Phags, brought in FannyHills college offense for him, though I wouldnt use the term thriving.
     
  18. Section 227. Row 5

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    But he had beaucoup chances to "get consintent" and failed at every chance.

    And Lord only knows the "talent" is not there, unfortunately for us. And exactly what talent are you talking about anyway?

    He panics when pressured in the pocket. He also exhibits extreme inaccuracy when pressured. He also exhibits extremely poor judgement when pressured.

    When not pressured, he still throws inaccurately but sometimes luckily hits near the mark. At other times, he passes at the ankles, or overhead, or too short, or wishes to turn the WR into a contortionist who has to stop short and reach overhead, or speed up and dive. I mean... come on.

    This guy is a 16-game Californication image of what we needed to revive the team and unfortunately we and all of the coaching staff and all of the kings horses and men bought into the fold, only to realize we did a Chad Pennington again and now we need to "rebuild" once more.

    Come on guys. We are fucked and it's time to acknowledge that once again.
     
  19. TNJet

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    If we cut Sanchez like we did Tebow, who in your opinion would pick him up?

    my guess :Oakland, maybe.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    What moron cuts 12 million in Salary cap dollars to go play somewhere else with no credible alternative?

    Sanchez starts. Barring calamity.
    Might as well get used to it now.

    Even Rex fucked up the tough competition mantra today.

    He is saying it, and they are pushing Sanchez, but hed have to drool on his shoelaces to lose rhe job.

    Rex, and Idzik..have been using the "competition at every position" mantra since Idzik showed up.

    Go read what Rex said about Cumberland today. Oops.

    Garrard, was never going to be the starter here. geno was luck.

    Dont listen to what they say, watch what they do.
     
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