Sanchez just sucks... just sucks. (all Sanchez complaints here)

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  1. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Compared to Sparano, and Schottenheimer....?
     
  2. Lehtonen

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    Either way, we know Sanchez will do nothing but mess things up. Guarantee he has over 25 turnovers this season if he starts. The guy is a mistake waiting to happen.
     
  3. BeastBeach

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    Oh so you think that BB is calling the same plays without Welker and Gronkowski?

    You have no point you are just being a homer.
     
  4. Hobbes3259

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    You're daft. The Jets gave up 90 points in two games in 2012.

    And 45 in the prior game in 2011..

    This is on Rex v. The Pats O, not El Taco loco v. Belichicken.

    (some of those points were attributable to turnovers. Not arguimg otherwise, but..being able to get the Pats O off the field has been the problem, and lends insight into this years draft)


    But Sanchez, has won at Gillette, and more importantly, when it counted the most.

    Beli isnt scheming against a QB. Thats plain retarded. The QB doesnt design the O or call his own plays, hes a functionary.
     
  5. ArmandJ

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    Rich Cimini has written another article that Hobbes will salivate over and use to defend Sanchez for at least two more weeks.

    Tomorrow is the day of reckoning. Can't.Wait.
     
  6. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Amendola is Welker lite. (heres a clue...they came out of the same school (texas tech)and theiy are well versed in finding the open spot....) and as for Gronk, he may or not be back, guess you didnt catch that either, hes currently in question for week one, but ...maybe you also didnt catch the back story to that either, where the Pats stole Jake Ballard of injury waivers, (which was a story because...its not quite Marquis of Queensbury in football circles)

    If you spent less time trying to be obnoxious becaise you disagree with me, you wouldnt post such trash.

    Because otherwise, you make some good points.
     
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  7. Hobbes3259

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    The opening day, of what exactly? I must have missed that memo...?

    And use what to defend? I dont speak Gibberish that well...
     
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  8. Hobbes3259

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    If I had to bet, Id say 32 scores, 14 picks, 3 or 4 lost fumbles. (by virtue of getting the ball out of his hands quicker)

    On him alone.

    I'd factor in, the offense getting close enough to add to scores in the running game.
     
  9. Br4d

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    The Jets are very unlikely to cut Sanchez before Geno Smith is signed to a deal.

    The scenario where the Jets cut Sanchez and then Smith holds out in training camp for the best possible contract is very real.

    Picture the Jets with Greg McElroy and Matt Simms as the only QB's in camp while Geno sits at home and waits for his agents to give him the ok to report.
     
  10. BeastBeach

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    Oh they went to the same school! That means...uh...absolutely nothing. What a stupid point.

    Oh Jake Ballard! He is just like Gronkowski...oh wait..another stupid point.

    I wouldn't be obnoxious if you would put the tiniest amount of thought in before you hit submit reply.
     
  11. ArmandJ

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    Use the article with MM's quotes about Sanchez to defend keeping that scrub around. The moment Geno signs his contract is the moment he should be gone.
     
  12. gopats88

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    Yeah, Kerley was Sanchez's only real consistent target who stayed healthy throughout the year, but those other three players combined to fill in the #2 (or #1) spot throughout almost the entire season. And the second round pick, Stephen Hill, was in there too. Rarely was there a game when any of the no name players you mentioned were truly one of Mark's top options. If you don't believe it, then look up the box score for each week, and you will find at least two of the more talented players showing up almost every time.

    Or look at it this way... three of the players you are calling his "top targets" (J. Hill, Gates, and Reuland) combined for only 10% of Sanchez's targets. Cumberland and Schillens combined for another 19%. The "starters" (Holmes, Kerley, Hill, Keller) plus Braylon and the running backs combined for 63% of his targets. Less than 18% of his throws were to receivers below Cumberland and Schillens on the depth chart, and I believe they were the Jets' top backups going into the season at TE and WR. So Sanchez wasn't forced to lean on the back end of his roster nearly as much as you think. Now the top of the roster wasn't particularly talented compared to other teams, but it wasn't the disgrace you make it out to be.

    Comparing Sanchez and RGIII, Sanchez basically had:

    Jeremy Kerley
    an injured Dustin Keller for 8 weeks
    Holmes for three weeks
    Braylon Edwards for four weeks
    and a bunch of nobodies

    RGIII had:

    Santana Moss
    an injured Pierre Garcon for 10 weeks
    Fred Davis for seven weeks
    and a bunch of nobodies

    Not really all that different from what I can tell. Sure RGIII makes plays with his legs, but that is irrelevant to the point you tried to make ("no other QB could succeed with Sanchez's weapons"). He also had the benefit of a stronger running game, but that barely even begins to account for the difference in how well he and Sanchez played. RGIII made that entire Redskins offense look good. Sanchez didn't take that receiving corps and make them look good. He didn't even make them look average.. Not even simply bad. IMO he made them look even worse than they actually were. He made them look lightyears behind all of the worst units in the league. Average QB can't explain that. Only terrible QB play does.
     
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  13. Lehtonen

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    And bingo was his name-o.
     
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    A Thurs. nite away game on three days rest is not gonna make it easier.
     
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    i see the jets waiting to see who gets their walking papers over the next week and looking to sign a guy. only then will they think about dropping sancho. you make a very good point about geno getting signed too. i hadnt thought about that but it is absolutely correct.
     
  16. Acad23

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    The Jets screwed things up last season. They should have sat Sanchez and really taken a good look at McElroy. That SD game was nothing to judge him on.
     
  17. Lehtonen

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    Remember when we had our run in 09-10 and we all thought, "wow! we might have our guy! this just might work!"...

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  18. feldspar

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    The Broncos didn't have shit for receivers...until Peyton Manning came to town. Their top receivers were already there before Manning arrived, and they had done next to nothing in the league up to that point. In fact, the top Broncos receiver had 612 yards in 2011. Manning arrived, and their top guys nearly doubled or even tripled their production. Some people like to refer to fantasy stats as production.

    Now, you can say that this is a reflection of Tim Tebow playing QB for Denver before Manning got there, and I wouldn't really argue with that. However, the main Sanchez dickheads around here...one of their main arguments is that Sanchez has played big in big spots, and that's what they hang their hat on. Well, Tim Tebow has basically done that too with the chances he's been given, so those same Sanchez homers are applying a bias and double-standard when they didn't even want to give Tebow a shot for the Jets...not that I'm a Tebow supporter, either, but I'm just making a point.
     
  19. 101GangGreen101

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    Eric Decker and Thomas were good prospects before Peyton came to town. The HOF QB made them better. This argument is null. Tebow rarely threw the football anyway

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  20. TNJet

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    It's Cut Sanchez eve, can't wait til tomorrow.
     
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