Mark Sanchez is a bottom 3 QB in the league. Why are we still discussing him he will be out of the league in two years.
It amazes me how we Jet Fans have blind love for some of the bums that have worn the colors. It will be interesting to see if Geno gets that same blind love.
you dont say he can do no wrong but you rationalize the shit out of everything he does. on the same hand you refuse to rationalize and actually will go completely the other direction with a different player. you are not fair, you are completely unfair in how you judge players. like i said before you base your opinion of a play and whether it was good or bad solely on the name on the back of the jersey. to the point that you deem an int from the 36 on 2nd and 8 when there were 2 guys wide open as a good punt. any other qb in the league you would never ever ever make that statement.
again, they were doing fine in the first half in the 2011 games, they were doing fine for 3 /12 qtrs. of this game BUT they blew another lead late in this one. Oh boy, why do I bother w/ people that are so far beneath me? That was their last possession of the half. game 2: I didn't say they scored, did I? 6:my mistake, I thought they started at their 24, it was at Sea 24 so there was time to score and they failed. 8: short field? they were still on their side of the field when they took over w/ less than 2 mins. 9:scored on last real possession, they got it on their 20 w/ 30 secs left. 12:last real possession, they took knee at their 20 w/ 25 secs left. you don't think there is much difference btw starting at your 2 vs. starting at your 20? that's all we really need to know about your views on this game. I speak the truth, I am not a fan that wants to run every player/coach out of town the second they don't have success. Do I give him the benefit of the doubt at times? probably but I am fair w/ him. I didn't deem it as anything, I said a million times it was a horrendous decision and I wish he didn't make it BUT it turned out to be like a great punt and may have ended up helping us. Show me a similar situation and I'll tell it like it is. Ryan throwing an INT inside the 30 and setting up a great O like GB at the 20 is very different than the situation w/ Mark.
Young, was not a great passer, thats a bad argument. Kind of the point. Brady was in an effective system, the minute he hit the starting line up. Young, and Testaverde are more apt comparisons, when mKing the argument about player/ right coach&system. Testaverde is a perfect comparison.... And fwiw...Youngs stats arent much better in his first four years....the compariosn, is apt.
I think a better bet would be page 1,000 by opening day. It will be long past 500 by opening day assuming it doesn't get locked at some point.
Like Junc said.Reading seems to be a lost art. You should have noticed, that I pointed back to the 2011 stats to backfield players. The 2012 numbers didnt decline because of Sanchez. That was Sparano. The 2011 numbers look far closer to the norm. 2012 is nauseating, especially in light of the injuries.
With Sanchez at QB, tell me WHICH DEFENSE will not blow late lead. They sure didn't fuck things up with GMac at QB against Arizona.
Damn straight. If Bill Belicheck was such a smart coach, he'd be telling his DB's to swat down those kind of passes.
this thread should be locked now. it has run its course. there really is nothing more to add to it. it will all end somewhere around 45 days from now. it will all be a mute point.
You bother with people like us to educate yourself which is a good thing and you should be thanking us rather than taking shots. The next step is to actually allow the info to absorb into your head so you don't look quite as foolish the next time you try to debate someone. :rofl: If I have to sacrifice 3 points and a shot at a TD just to change 18 yards of FP, I wouldn't do it. All we need to know about your views on this game is that you compare Mark's pick in FG range to a good punt. :rofl2:
AZ was an even more inept offense than we had and the D sure looked good vs. SD, right? Now Sanchez is being blamed for the D blowing late leads:rofl:
I do engage in discussions to educate myself but it's not working in this one. Mark's pick was like a GREAT punt not a good one and thank for that comment, you further show how little you know.
Sanchez is giving the defense a chance to shine and they crap the bed over and over. Ungrateful bastards...
Young isn't even a similar player. The comparison is stupid. Testy? Really? The guy was almost in his 40s before he found a team that could use him. Are you really suggesting that we go through as many offensive coordinators that Vinny did to find the "right fit" for this guy? How about we just let some other stupid team do that?? I want to win. Sanchez doesn't, except for a couple of post-season that are far removed from who he is now. I'm all for him being able to compete for the job this year. But if it's a fair competition, I have huge doubts that he will even be the second choice.
hahahah im an idiot... covers internet balls (which are HUGE btw) and sulks toward the door... kicking rocks along the way
His 2011 numbers behind the LOS are not "closer to the norm". They are shitty. Downright shitty compared to every other QB in this league. Stop with the lying already. The following is the embarrassment that happens when you say things and think nobody is smart enough to fact check the poor arguments you spout off. Sanchez in 2011: 72.2% behind the LOS. Guys ahead of him: Kyle Orton-78.3% Matt Cassel-78% Josh Freeman-77.9% Colt Mccoy-73.8% Tim Tebow-75% Rex Grossman-74% Christian Ponder-74.4% John Skelton-81.8% Curtis Painter-85.4% Blaine Gabbert-74% Does that list look familiar? If you said to yourself, "That's a bunch of below average QBs", you're right!! Guess where I found those QBs? That's the list of statistically worse QBs than Sanchez in 2011. Without even looking above him, he was worse than EVERY SINGLE QB ON THE LIST BELOW HIM BESIDES BRADFORD. Let that sink in and think about the argument you are making. You are dead wrong. The eye test and the statistics both bear it out. Stop lying, stop fabricating your POV from bullshit and you will understand football better. I can already hear the gears of your excuse wheel starting up, but from that big list of bad QBs you are going to have a pretty tough time. But I'm sure you'll do just fine. It is what you're best at. /roast