Andy Reid was calling those shots (along with their GM) not Marty. Nothing to be bitter about being traded and allowed to sign for much bigger money than a backup makes.
Idzik told everyone he is going to create competition at every position. You can't say that and then not follow up by creating good competition at the most visible position on the field. Garrard was a good start. Kolb would create a real competition.
Annnnd...it's happened: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/arizona-cardinals-release-quarterback-kevin-162625929--nfl.html Kolb is on the street.
Heh! Ftr I do not have a personal hatred for Muck as a person or anything. I just don't want to see him in a Jet uniform ever again. That hardly makes me unique. About Kolb, I am not saying he's the next John Elway or anything. But it did seem in your earlier post you were being unfair in only referring to Larry being his main receiver. AZ has a problem there since Boldin and Breaston moved on, since Larry is constantly double teamed and AZ has limited options at receiver. And of course the other factors already mentioned, like bad OL and nagging injuries. Kolb leaving Philly was more about their willingness to take a chance on Vick, who was available, and not about Kolb having failed there. Come on, you thikn Marty would want him if he thought Kolb failed in Philly? YOu are a more reasonable person than that. In short your cheap hooker comment was way of an overstatement.
Right. Not like I spend a lot of time following the Eagles, but my recollection was Andy was the one leading the charge to get Vick, and that decision ftr in the short run paid dividends. It was Vick's being injury prone that ended up making that an ineffective plan.
Vick was already well documented when the Iggles chose him over Kolb. If the Iggles thought Kolb was going to win Super Bowls, they wouldn't have chosen Vick. I think Eagles smartly saw an opportunity to get compensation for a guy who had a great couple of games and took advantage. Sure Arizona had problems, we clearly saw that this year. I'd still take their receiving core over what we fielded last year any day of the week. And as I've stated previously, I would be all for signing Kolb to a one year deal with the promise he can compete for the starting job in the preseason. Anything more is too risky.
No news whatsoever, but this incarcerated bob parody account just started following me and tweeted a nice little dig at bob: IncarceratedBlob IBN@incarceratedblb ***BREAKING*** Jets on the verge of signing Kevin Kolb. But Kolb could change his mind. So really, there's no news. Nevermind! #jets
He is creating competition by cutting the guys who were No. 1 on the depth chart. His competition comment was a metaphor about rebuilding. Teams that are actually going to compete for a SB aren't having a competition at every position. They are having a competition for depth and backups.
He's cutting guys who were over paid, on the decline and whose contracts were basically designed to be cut this offseason. Bringing in QB's who can compete has nothing to do with who he's let go. The Jets aren't going to compete for a superbowl in '13 - I don't think anyone believes that.
Dude, Kolb started the season as #1 Qb but got a concussion from clay Matthews, and the Eagles started Vick the next game, which was a win. They left Vick in after that, although Kolb did play some games later when Vick got injured. But for the season, Vick played well. Meanwhile the Eagles felt they needed help at Cb despite the Aso signing, and they were able to trade Kolb to AZ and get Rodgers-Cro. Kolb didn't flunk out at Philly. It was a mix of Vick's success and the opportunity to get value for Kolb.
I also again think if the Jets really want Kolb, a one year deal might not be enough. There is apparent interest from other teams, and despite Marty's presence here, I think he goes to another team if they offer two or more and the Jets are at one.
So why spend serious coin on Kolb? Why not ride Sanchez for a year and let Gerard come in if he shits the bed and move on after next year? The only reason to bring Kolb in is to start him the next 2 year at least. Who's competing with Brick and Mangold next year?
I don't understand why the Jets would keep Sanchez, Garrard and sign Kolb. It would be worse than signing the detroit QB last year, and then signing Tebow and letting the Lion guy go. Total waste of money, unless if we let Garrard go and only lose the 100K signing bonus.
Maybe the Eagles feel differently, but if I have a guy who I think can win my team a Super Bowl, I don't let him go for anything. Everyone thinks the Ravens are crazy for giving Flacco the deal that they did, but that was the price they paid for not locking him up sooner. The fact that value won out over the future says all you need to know about what the Eagles thought of Kolb.
I'm not really sure what to think on the Kolb situation. One minute I'm against it the next it sounds like a good idea to me. Here's the most important question that I think we always have to refer to when having these kinds of discussions... Will Kevin Kolb help the Jets win the Super Bowl? Personally, I don't think so. Therefore I think we should pass. Obviously there is more to it than that as the team is a business, they have to sell seats, want to win games, keep players happy, develop players, etc. so they may get him for one of those reasons. By definition if it's a stop gap move it's just a temporary move until something better comes along, so why not just wait until something better comes along and go with that?
Meh. It's a different situation. The Eagles took a gamble on Vick, at least Reid did, and he lost his job. If he sucked so bad in Philly, as you suggest, why does Marty want him here?
The best reason to bring Kolb in is to get rid of Sanchez. It reminds me of the Favre signing. There were many questions about that. Favre ended up playing well until he got hurt, but that was not apparent at the time he was signed. But what was clear was it enabled the franchise to part ways with Chadwick. WHich was a good thing. But yes, I clearly think the logic of bringing Kolb here would be to have him on at least a two year deal. Otherwise they might as well stay with Muck. Of course I don't really think there is any good reason to stay with Muck, but you know what i mean.
Here's the thing, and others might see it differently or disagree with me. But I don't think you can simultaneously develop a team for upside and let your Qb position go to hell as well as if your Qb is decent. The other players may accept that they are rebuilding, but they also want to see the FO get players who are more, not less, competitive. I also think that the longer Sanchez stays on the team, his loser attitude and poor demeanor becomes more and more of a problem for the other players. There was open dissension about him as far back as the end of 11, and it's just going to get worse the longer he stays. Or certainly the potential is there for that. Plus people like Hill and Kerley, Cumberland and others, will probably develop better and more quickly if they are working with a decent Qb instead of a stiff like Muck. there are a few ways that a better Qb will help the rebuidling process even if the team moves on to another Qb in two years.
