Taken from ESPN/Newyork: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9049334/new-york-jets-rex-ryan-lame-duck-contract-year-getting-lamer-hour Doesn't look good right now but honestly, we all know what that light at the end of the tunnel really is don't we.. Its the circus leaving town for good. Guys are bailing on the Jets in droves whether we like to admit it or not. You can't put this on the media either. Is this the beginning of the end of the Rex Ryan era? It certainly looks that way right now but things could always change.. Bring on 2015!
If Idzik can put together a winning team which in turn underachieves due to being poorly coached and managed then yes Rex should be fired. It kills me when fans expect instant success. If your organization have a shitty FO then your team is doomed from the start.
If Rex can coach he's not going anywhere next year. As long as the Jets look like a competitive well-focused team he's going to get another contract with them. If they look poorly organized and the offense is a mess for the third year in a row and they play poorly down the stretch for the third year in a row, well really that's a firing offense right?
So it's Rex's fault that we aren't going to continue to overpay players beyond what they are actually worth? Half the players listed that are gone, we WANTED gone. Lack of success last two seasons was hardly Rex's fault.
Well, except for the part where he collaborated on the dismantling of the offense in favor of building his defense. Other than that, yeah, it was hardly his fault.
Like I said for a millionth time, Jets are in a spike year. Does that mean a damn thing to Rex Ryan? How? Moreover, how is the stupid albatross contract the fault of Ryan? Jets are shackled because their cap structure is quite unhealthy - and they cannot pursue talents because they don't have cap room for it. That is Ryan's fault? How? So, firing Ryan will somehow magically cure the cap situation? How does that work out? Or did Ryan somehow mind-control Tannenbaum into giving these monstrous contracts? How did THAT happen? Well. I'd have to take exception to that. The only blame I can put on Ryan over the offensive personnel is, Santonio Holmes. (Ryan is said to have told Tannenbaum to grab Holmes. It's another matter to see if that blame should be solely on Ryan, but I'll leave at that for now.) Other than that, I don't know how it is his fault to 1. trade up and draft fringe player 2. let go important pieces without suitable replacements (Braylon Edwards, Thomas Jones, Alan Faneca, Damien Woody, Jericho Cotchery et al) 3. shackle the team further with colossally stupid contracts (10+M to Harris, Nacho, AND Holmes? Are ya fucking kidding me?) Care to elaborate on that? If the focus was on neglecting offensive skill players at earlier part of the draft, I agree whole-heartedly. After Sanchez and Greene, the next three 1st rounders all went to defense. One of them is not quite living up to the 1st rounder status (Kyle Wilson.) After that, I cannot fault the thought for OL - but I have to blame drafting a project player for 2nd round pick. That shouldn't be on Ryan, or is it? After that, Stephen Hill was the last 2nd round pick. Jets didn't have 2nd round pick twice in 4 years. And I don't even think you can single out Ryan as the distinguishing factor in draft, like Ghost pick was in case of Mangini situation. =================================================== Look. I am not Rex Ryan Fanboy. Ok? Just, these sort of unsubstantiated potshots at him irritate me a little - so bear with me. P.S. I should have checked the sources. Johnette Howard? Jesus. That moron doesn't even know 1 with a stick standing in front of her. Football? Very well. ESPN is borderline bleacherreport-esque here.
He'll be here IF he can coach up young raw talent. I don't think the W/L record will be the only factor here. That's the judgement call Idzik has to make.
Dismantling of the offense? What offense was there for him to dismantle!? Brett Favre went to the Vikings because that's where he wanted to be in the first place. Thomas Jones left and had two awful seasons in KC. Leon Washington was a decent change of pace back and returner but he sure wasn't a #1. Coles was old and was bound to go. Cotchery was let go after he dropped off. We didn't lose anyone that wasn't going downhill as it was.
1. That would be position coaches' job to coach up the raw kids. (Dick LeBeau is quite successful as a DC, but you can't assume he did all the f*cking work - especially when he had awful lot of help from LB coach named Kevin Butler during the recent Steeler heydays.) 2. Finding out a way to utilize the raw kids would be his OC/DC's responsibility. 3. After all, he is the HC, not DC any more. 4. On top of that, when did Jets give Ryan anything good to work with anyway? LBs? Safeties? Ryan had to start up front for a reason. (Coples/Wilk/Ellis) 5. Dunbar did all the work for the DLs? So where does "coaching up" part kick in for Ryan then? 6. Jets would do really well to use the next two years to shed all the unproductive, old players (That means you, Holmes.) and excess baggages with it - so, in three years, they would be ready for some competitive football.
article looks like it was plagiarized from this website espn is shit. i dont even watch sportscenter anymore
Now I wouldn't go so far as to say Ryan didn't have anything to work with when he got here. Mangini left him a pretty decent roster. Ryan in turn brought over Leonard and Scott to help with implementing the new D. He then lobbied for and got Sanchez to run the offense and for two years it worked. Then it stopped working. 2. Regarding young raw talent, its still up to Ryan to put it all together. Talent evaluation and development falls to the scouts but wrapping it all together into a viable system is still the HC's job. Again, if I don't miss my guess, Idzik will be evaluating just how well Ryan motivates this team of, lets face it, replacements. I'm sure there's no expectation of a playoff berth or even a .500 season. Its how well or how badly this team plays week in and week out and how well the development of the young players is going. 3. Some coaches like to come into ready made situations and some like projects. When Ryan first got here, it was a ready made situation missing just a few parts (Qb. S, Lb). Once Ryan added those, the Jets were good to go. I guess my point is that Rex will be judged not so much by the w/l record but by how he handles the rebuilding project. I guess this kinda makes Ryan the Site Foreman so to speak. The wildcard in all of this is Idzik and if he truly wants "his guy" in the big chair. If that's the case, then none of this discussion really matters.
The ignorance on here is hilarious! Rex Ryan took us to back to back AFC Championships. Both one game away from the SuperBowl. All in his first years of coaching. Tanny goes out and puts ridiculous contracts on everyone and signs ZERO depth at the skill positions, yet this is Rex's fault? LOL It's funny because even on national TV a few days ago, Tanny said if he did anything different, he would have added depth at skill positions. But instead, let's put the blame on Rex Ryan. Some of our fans are as bad or worse than these fly by night fans. Rex Ryan is one of the best coaches we have ever had and anyone who has been a long time Jet fan knows that. Who is going to coach this squad we have better than he has? Who is going to take a team anywhere with Sanchize at the helm? Please enlighten me, because no one can. Some of the posters on here are so obnoxious.
They were 6-10 with everyone of the guys that were lost. The only 2 that I wish we had back are DeVito and Landry.
None of that matters anymore. If Idzik wants his guy here, that's what gonna happen. Like it or not, Ryan has a limited amount of time and not a lot of talent to work with. Those 2 AFCCG losses might as well have happened 10 years ago. It's all up to how Rex handles the rebuild and make no mistake, its on Ryan to make this rebuild a success because if it isn't, who do you think walks the plank first? Ryan or Idzik? 2013 isn't gonna be pretty and most likely neither is 2014. These will be very painful times for Jet Fans and if their favorite player or coach walks the plank, then it is what it is and you just have to move forward from there. Rebuilding is never easy especially from the ground up.
